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on Tuesday May 23 2017, @01:55PM
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Washington, DC—Reps. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) and Scott Perry (R-PA), both founding members of the Fourth Amendment Caucus, introduced legislation today to permanently codify protections on Americans’ privacy. Last month, the NSA announced it is ending its collection of Americans’ Internet communications that merely mention identifying terms for foreign targets, but are not to or from those targets, also known as "about" surveillance. The legislation introduced today would permanently codify this policy change into law. Gabbard and Perry, both veterans of the Iraq War, also co-chair the Post 9/11 Veterans Caucus.
Video of Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s speech on the House floor is available here
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Gabbard, Perry Introduce Bill to Permanently End Warrantless Collection of Americans’ Emails
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(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 23 2017, @02:55PM (11 children)
They didn't pass the previous several. Congress is dysfunctional.
And believe it or not, they did follow the couple supreme court rulings, in that they got crappy bullshit warrants stretched far beyond the intent of the 4th amendment.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 23 2017, @03:10PM (2 children)
Congress is dysfunctional.
To whom?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Informative) by captain normal on Tuesday May 23 2017, @04:17PM (1 child)
"To whom?"
Oh...about 81% of the people in the USA.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201974/congress-job-approval-start-new-session.aspx [gallup.com]
Of course everybody hates Congress as a whole, yet we keep reelecting the people in our districts.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday May 24 2017, @02:57AM
Of course everybody hates Congress as a whole, yet we keep reelecting the people in our districts.
Exactly... So who are the dysfunctional ones in this equation? Certainly not congress. They have a winning formula that works perfectly for them.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 23 2017, @03:27PM (7 children)
Congress is not dysfunctional. Congress did as it was directed to do by its master, the NSA. Congress did not pass laws that would hinder the NSA from spying on Americans.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 1, Troll) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 23 2017, @03:42PM (6 children)
Do you think seeing vague conspiracies of purified control by unstated methods make you smarter than everyone else? More informed? Wiser?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 23 2017, @04:33PM (2 children)
Do you think insulting people without offering constructive counterpoint makes you smarter than everyone else? More informed? Wiser?
(Score: 1, Troll) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 23 2017, @04:41PM (1 child)
Honestly, if the person is spouting unsubstantiated bullshit, promulgating conspiracy theories as an explanatory method, questioning them as a person does seem both reasonable and justified to me.
There's no rational, logical discussion to take away from. I at least feel contextually wiser than the person in question, certainly not than every person ever.
(Score: 2) by urza9814 on Wednesday May 24 2017, @10:10PM
NSA whistleblower Bill Binney has publicly stated that the NSA does in fact spy on Congress in order to influence their decisions, so I think that's a bit better than "unsubstantiated bullshit...conspiracy theories." Maybe not to the level of "proven fact" yet, but I don't see any reason to doubt it:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/03/25/nsa_whistleblower_binney_nsa_spies_on_congress_supreme_court_white_house_trump.html [realclearpolitics.com]
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday May 23 2017, @05:22PM
I don't see any conspiracy, but I remember dear old Mr Hoover, who did not have anywhere near as much capacity to peer into politician's closets as the NSA and CIA, yet had them scared shitless.
I want to believe that there are enough good citizens at both places to protect democracy from their bosses abusing the information they definitely could have access to.
On the other hand, the rest of the political side of .gov is so dysfunctional (I don't blame the worker bees), I can't reasonably exclude the possibility of occasional foul play.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 23 2017, @06:24PM (1 child)
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't also out to get you.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 23 2017, @07:59PM
Just because they're out to get you doesn't mean the arbitrary scapegoat for the shitty state of your national politics are the ones doing it.