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For the first time in 10 years, the Prime Minister said the terror threat had been raised to the highest possible level, from severe to critical, meaning an attack is "expected imminently".
[...] Mrs May also announced that troops would replace police officers at set-piece events including sports venues and concerts.
It will be the first time since 2003 – when the Government reacted to a plot to bring down an airliner – that troops are deployed on the streets.
[...] It is the first time Britain has been on maximum terrorist alert since 2007, when a blazing car loaded with gas canisters was driven into Glasgow Airport.
Source: The Telegraph
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Croll's Query:
If tin whistles are made of tin, what are foghorns made of?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by julian on Wednesday May 24 2017, @04:07PM (29 children)
So how many generations back do we carry out this purge? Just curious where your cut off is for a "real" British/US/French citizen. I'm only the 2nd gen born in my country, do I count?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @04:16PM (5 children)
Islamic "refugees" [twitter.com] should be here on licence for two generations. Withhold citizenship for members of death cults.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Grishnakh on Wednesday May 24 2017, @04:22PM (3 children)
Withhold citizenship for members of death cults.
I like this idea. We should do it in the US. However, it would be hard to achieve politically, because that would cause I'm guessing about 70% of the citizenry to be stripped of their citizenship, including most politicians, since so much of the US is Christian.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @04:56PM
Oh no most of these true believers would flip the second they were immersed in a culture that ridiculed their stone age beliefs. Most of the rest are only christian because they believe being so will carry some sort of reward.
The rest are such a small number of people.. tell me how often you meet a christian who doesn't have a primary interest in pleasing their peers or getting fabulous prizes in heaven? I know a few but they're exceptionally rare.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @06:40PM
Leave Steve Bannon ALONE!!! Has he not suffered enough from Saturnday Night Live?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 25 2017, @06:27AM
Hangings for "practicing witchcraft" [google.com]
Doing nasty things to those who don't believe in the proper way. [google.com]
Indiscriminate slaughter of more of the same. [google.com]
There's more than 1 religion that has a lot to answer for.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday May 24 2017, @05:41PM
Awful lot of Baby-Boomers who are guilty of slavery by that standard....
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @05:45PM (8 children)
Saxons out of England! And take those darn Angles with you! Briton for Britons!
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Wednesday May 24 2017, @06:27PM
Don't say that, the Angles might come to Anglesey [wikipedia.org] by mistake!
(Score: 4, Funny) by TheRaven on Wednesday May 24 2017, @06:46PM (5 children)
sudo mod me up
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:08PM (4 children)
Aqueducts
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:13PM (1 child)
London Bridge? Or just, London? And all the "Chesters".
"Of course, all the chesters, no one is questioning that!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:16PM
And it's safe to walk the streets at night.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Thursday May 25 2017, @08:25AM (1 child)
The lasting influence of aqueducts is still up in the air.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 25 2017, @08:59AM
Have you not been to Bath? It's called "Bath" for a reason. And the reason is aquaducts. Smelly Englishmen!
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:42PM
Mercia Ueber Alles!
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Wednesday May 24 2017, @05:52PM (12 children)
You can't purge without killing unless you have somewhere to put these people. There's no solution that is even remotely possible if the numbers are large, either way. The numbers will be large if "Islam" or "Arab" are the kind of qualifiers used. And frankly, the number of actual problem individuals is very small. The ones that are actually batshit. To most people, even religious people, religion itself is background noise. It's more about personal spirituality than it is playing superstitious nutbar. It's a focal point for moral lessons and behavioral conditioning.
Anyway, bottom line, we don't have the tech to determine if someone is batshit until they act out. Yet. When we do, this problem could actually be solved. Though I doubt there is any real intent to in government, as government is little more than the hand of the 1% these days, and they love supplying the police and the military. It's just more bread and butter for them.
I have a different idea which could be pursued more-or-less now, though it's pie in the sky at best, because it's designed to actually solve the problem long term and at little cost to the economy. Also, politically, it's very hard, and politicians don't do hard things. They just do easy things and then lie that they were hard. Anyway, here it is...
Destroy all copies of the koran, bible, book of mormon, scientology texts, creationist nonsense, prayer books, hymnals, etc. This would have to be an ongoing project; it'd take decades to get done (and is probably ultimately impossible... but they could be made very, very rare, which would definitely reduce the number of crazies.) Provide severely annoying penalties for possession of religious texts. Basically, remove all of the tangible literature for the major superstitions. Then make it illegal to teach/preach these things. Repurpose the churches. They make great homes, by the way. I live in a repurposed church. :)
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday May 24 2017, @06:03PM
> You can't purge without killing unless you have somewhere to put these people.
I hear they regularly clear up some space in Gaza.
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Wednesday May 24 2017, @06:46PM (7 children)
Oh, you mean like in the Soviet Union [wikipedia.org].
And after it fell, Aleksander Solzhenitsyn grew his beard long and started preaching orthodox christianity.
And now Putin is very happy that relics of St. Nicolas are on display at the Kremlin.
So that experiment lasted about 60 years.
See also: Oscar Romero [wikipedia.org], Jerzy Popieluszko [wikipedia.org]. It is difficult to oppress religion.
Even if you get rid of organized religion, you'll get new groups to take its place e.g. Scientology.
It seems that it is somehow wired into us people to accept some things on faith.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by turgid on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:14PM
We seem to be hard wired to form societies where holding beliefs and principles without evidence is admired and encouraged.
Many people make it very difficult for those who wish to take a more rational, evidence-based approach to fit into society.
The Human Race really needs to get over this crazy reverence for superstitious belief.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 3, Interesting) by fyngyrz on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:31PM (5 children)
Scientology is organized religion.
No, not like the Soviet union. The Soviets didn't fail because they didn't support superstition. They failed, in general, because they provided no mechanism for success for their citizens, and because they could not support the military they insisted they must have.
Superstition in general is not the problem, either. The problem arises when superstition drags a cultural imperative along with it, and instructs that violence is an acceptable means for bringing said cultural imperative about. That's what the crusades, the inquisitions, blood libel, 9/11, scientific repression, witch-burnings, subjugation of women, vilification of sexuality, blue laws, murder of "heretics", etc. were (and are) all about. Both the Christian and Islamic faiths have long, colorful histories of imposing their ideas by means of violence.
Yes, there is a conflict: In order to suppress violence, opposing violence, or at least coercion, has to come into play. If, in order to avoid violence and/or coercion, we cannot successfully impede a threat, then the threat will materialize repeatedly and effectively. This is where we are today.
The root of the problem, and it is the key problem, is that religionists often insist that their right to swing their fist does not end before other's faces begin because their imaginary friend told them so via some bit of writing. Those that do not so insist are rarely problems – and they are rarely to-the-letter believers in the various superstitious texts. The others are using up oxygen to the public's detriment.
The reason I suggest getting rid of the instructional texts, and the corresponding instruction, is because that is specifically where these ideas come from, and because it is a step removed from physical and financial violence. The cost of putting up with superstition is continued mayhem at the behest of long-dead ideologues, con-artists, and crazies. If you're okay with that, well, there you go. If not, either you get rid of the instruction books and silence the instructors, or wait until technology provides mind reading, and society approves mind-reading just to keep you safe. I wouldn't hold my breath on that, either.
The brute solutions are highly indiscriminate mass murder and mass deportation. The former won't fly because reasons, and the latter suffers from nowhere to put the deported. Neither is going to happen.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Wednesday May 24 2017, @07:39PM
Bingo!
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Wednesday May 24 2017, @08:06PM (1 child)
It's not that I'm ok with that (I'm not); but my example of the Soviet Union was meant to illustrate that you can repress religion for 60 years, and then still it comes back after the repression is lifted, so repression doesn't work.
Therefore it must have some kind of vigor, an infectious mind construct. Whether that's good or bad depends on how the religion is interpreted in the current context, as well as the 60 years old previous interpretation, or the very old original texts and commentaries.
Maybe it is justified to simplify religions down to: "life cults" good, death cults bad. What would be the point to forbid a "life cult"? To make it more attractive to youngsters? :-)
There's been a large-scale experiment in the recent years: maybe it's a sick thing to say, but I'm curious what percentage of the Chibok girls [bbc.com] will have been indoctrinated to become suicide bombers (death cult), and what percentage is glad that they can now pick up a semblance of a normal life again (life cult). After the government releases them.
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Wednesday May 24 2017, @08:56PM
The lesson I would take from that isn't that "repression doesn't work", it's that the repression should never be lifted. Simple as that. As difficult as that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 25 2017, @06:43AM (1 child)
15 of the 19 were Saudi nationals.
USA has multiple military bases in Saudi Arabia.
USA also continues to sell Saudi Arabia weapons, which are used to oppress/kill Muslims.
My take is that those 15 represented the oppressed population of Saudi Arabia and their desire to have USA's presence and influence out of Saudi Arabia (the most oppressive government on the planet).
...but I could be wrong.
The other stuff you wrote was very good.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Thursday May 25 2017, @10:08AM
> USA also continues to sell Saudi Arabia weapons [...]
So does the UK.
-- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-has-sold-56bn-of-military-hardware-to-saudi-arabia-under-david-cameron-research-reveals-a6797861.html [independent.co.uk]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/23/uk-in-denial-over-saudi-arms-sales-being-used-in-yemen-claims-oxfam [theguardian.com]
https://www.caat.org.uk/resources/countries/saudi-arabia [caat.org.uk]
/article.pl?sid=16/06/09/1522226 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 24 2017, @08:38PM (1 child)
Well, look on the bright side, if you don't purge there will be an equal amount of killings, just it'll all be English children because of bombs, instead of muslims.
Its baked in the cake, the only choice you get is who gets the axe.
A lot of anti-white people want the English to get the axe. So that it'll be, one bombing at a time.
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Wednesday May 24 2017, @08:58PM
Unfortunately – very much so – I expect you've hit the nail on the head.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @11:40PM
—Fahrenheit 451
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 24 2017, @06:48PM
The number of generations is irrelevant. You don't have to be native-born to integrate and you could be 10th generation and still fail to do so.