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posted by martyb on Monday May 29 2017, @03:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-all-gone-to-bits dept.

From the RooshV Forum:

I constantly get the vibe from people that they think our technology is skyrocketing, that we're living in a new tech age, "where was all this ten years ago?!" etc.

But I disagree with this assessment of our technology. It has made steady improvements in one specific space: software and electronic hardware. That is all. On top of that, the improvements on the hardware have not even been ground breaking. GPS is a ground-breaking invention. Smaller screens are not: they are just an incremental improvement.

Smartphones are merely the result of incremental improvements in the size and quality of electronic components. The only breakthroughs involved are ages old. The invention of the transistor, the laser, etc. The existence of google, facebook, uber, and so on, are merely inevitable "new applications" stemming from these improvements. They are not breakthroughs, they are merely improvements and combinations upon the telephone, the directory, and the taxi.

In my opinion, technology as a whole is borderline stagnant.

A list of why technology is still shit:

The posting goes on to list examples of incremental, rather than breakthrough, changes in the areas of:

  • Electronics & Machines
  • Energy
  • Medicine
  • Clothes
  • Food
  • Finance

Have we really stagnated? Have we already found all of the "low-hanging fruit", so new breakthroughs are harder to find? Maybe there is greater emphasis on changes that are immediately able to be commercialized and less emphasis on basic research?

 
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Z-A,z-a,01234 on Monday May 29 2017, @08:16AM (1 child)

    by Z-A,z-a,01234 (5873) on Monday May 29 2017, @08:16AM (#517061)

    The guy is not the only one to observe this, for example:
    Tom Murphy has this post https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2015/09/you-call-this-progress/ [ucsd.edu]
    John Graham-Cumming observed that most enabler technologies were invented in the 50s through early 80s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVZxkFAIziA [youtube.com]

    I think there are 3 reasons behind this:
    1. economic system - encourages optimization based on maximizing the profit margin and the pressure to constantly have "growth" gave us planed obsolescence. It is considered "normal" to buy something today that will break in the few weeks after the warranty expired (if it lasts that long). It is normal to throw away a perfectly good item just because some 5c piece is not replaceable and other parts cannot be upgraded.

    2. computing in general - as an industry we've stagnated completely. I'll tip my hat for Watson and DeepMind - both being remarkable AI developments. Everybody else is doing the same shit over and over again because they need to release this year (see 1.). It used to be C, then C++, now CEF and JS, tomorrow it'll be just an app. If Windows releases a new version the whole world needs to adjust their programs to make sure they still work. If an old OS version is retired, the ones still using it are facing a very difficult choice. Linux got systemd which caused devuan - nobody is immune.

    3. science is now a business as funding is constantly shrinking. The publish or die strategy obviously backfired. There are virtually no negative results being published, reproducing some results also has a hard time getting published. So it's becoming more and more difficult to move forward on such a shaky base.
    See here: http://www.nature.com/news/1-500-scientists-lift-the-lid-on-reproducibility-1.19970 [nature.com]

    e.g. Xerox PARC accomplishments listed here are from the first decade of operation and according to Alan Kay for ~$40 mil in today's money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_%28company%29 [wikipedia.org]
    The original team had a contract that prevented Xerox from interfering with the team for the first 5 years or so. More details on that here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbwOPzxuJ0s [youtube.com]

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by kaszz on Monday May 29 2017, @09:16AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday May 29 2017, @09:16AM (#517076) Journal

    The original team had a contract that prevented Xerox from interfering with the team for the first 5 years or so.

    Reminds me of..

    Excerpt from IEEE spectrum [ieee.org] in 1985:

    The freedom ended
            Although the machine has its flaws, the designers of the Commodore 64 believe they came up with many significant advances because of the freedom they enjoyed during the early stages of the project. The design team was autonomous—they did their own market research, developed their own specifications, and took their baby right up through production. But as soon as the production bugs were worked out and Commodore knew it had a winner, the corporate bureaucracy, which until then had been on the West Coast dealing with the VIC-20 and the Pet computer, moved in.
            "At that point, many marketing groups were coming in to 'help' us," Winterble recalled. "The next product definition was going to be thought up by one group, and another group was to be responsible for getting things into production, and Al's group would do R&D on chips only." "If you let marketing get involved with product definition, you'll never get it done quickly," Yannes said. "And you squander the ability to make something unique, because marketing always wants a product compatible with something else."
            Charpentier summed up their frustration: "When you get many people involved in a project, all you end up doing is justifying yourself. I knew the Commodore 64 was technically as good and as low-cost as any product that could be made at the time, but now I had to listen to marketing people saying, 'It won't sell because it doesn't have this, it can't do that.
            ''The freedom that allowed us to do the C-64 project will probably never exist again in that environment.''

    Death by MBA is still a thing..