Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by n1 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:35AM   Printer-friendly

An Army veteran, a recent college graduate and a student who once won a poetry contest by condemning prejudice stirred up by the Sept. 11 attacks intervened as a man screamed anti-Muslim insults at two women in Portland, Ore., on Friday.

[...] Two of the men — Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche, 23, and Rick Best, 53 — died in the attack, which occurred on a commuter train. The third, Micah David-Cole Fletcher, 21, was treated on Saturday for injuries that the police said were serious but not life-threatening.

Jeremy Christian, 35, of North Portland, Ore., was charged with two counts of aggravated murder in the attack and could face additional charges when he is arraigned on Tuesday. Mr. Christian, who the authorities said had a history of making extremist statements on social media, was ranting at, and talking disparagingly about, the two women, one of whom was wearing a hijab.

Source: The New York Times

President Donald Trump has released his first official statement on the attack in Portland, Oregon, more than 48 hours after the two victims died.

"The violent attacks in Portland on Friday are unacceptable," Mr Trump tweeted. "The victims were standing up to hate and intolerance. Our prayers are w/ them."

Source: The Independent

Portland law enforcement leaders were tightlipped Saturday about the investigation into Friday's attacks that killed two men on a light rail train but a federal official did say it was too early to label the incident a hate crime.

[...] Loren Cannon, special agent in charge of the Portland FBI office, [...]

"It's too early to say whether last night's violence was an act of domestic terrorism or a federal hate crime," he said. "However, in the coming days, the FBI, PPB and the prosecutors will work together to share information, leverage resources and make determinations about future criminal charges."

[...] Leaders of the Muslim community said they were thankful for the men who gave their lives to save the girls from harm. They have raised $50,000 toward a goal of $60,000 to help support the victims and their families.

Source: The Oregonian


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:44AM (35 children)

    The paranoia of society has always got me down. A recorded voice incessantly says "Stay alert and stay safe. Report suspicious objects or persons to TriMet personnel, or dial 9-1-1."

    There are lots of Muslims in and around Portland. Whenever I meet a new one I make a point of apologizing for my countrymen.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    Starting Score:    1  point
    Moderation   +3  
       Insightful=3, Total=3
    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   5  
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:54AM (#517466)

    I don't mean to condescend, but you are one of the saner ones among us.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:31AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:31AM (#517475)

    What the fuck do you expect from a fucked up country that elected Bush twice? Terrorists fucking won. "See something, say something" was the inevitable fucking result.

    The terrorism never fucking stops. It only fucking gets worse. After Obama was elected (twice!) the same fuckers who posted "see something say something" signs put up more fucking signs reminding everybody not to be racist. Civil rights and equitable service to all, they say. Give your seat to black bitches who are your betters because your dear fucking leader was a fucking black man.

    After Trump was elected, the fuckers literally began distributing literal pamphlets containing a code of conduct for public transit. I haven't read the fucking pamphlet. I'll jump in front of a fucking train before I read about the fucking cock of conduct.

    Fuck America.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:30AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:30AM (#517495)

      Will you at least take your meds?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:39AM (#517497)

        Trump 2020!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:06AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:06AM (#517584)

      I find your ideas interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:01PM (1 child)

        by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:01PM (#517670) Journal

        "I find your fucking ideas fucking interesting and would like to fucking subscribe to your fucking newsletter."

        FTFY.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday June 01 2017, @10:34AM

          by Bot (3902) on Thursday June 01 2017, @10:34AM (#518775) Journal

          > FTFY
          *FFTFY

          --
          Account abandoned.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:01PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:01PM (#517882)

      Well, I do generally give up my seat to ladies. I thought that was simply the courteous thing to do. I'm a man, and I can handle standing.

      But I'm a millennial. What do I know.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday June 01 2017, @10:36AM

        by Bot (3902) on Thursday June 01 2017, @10:36AM (#518777) Journal

        You should first ask them whether they identify as a woman, mr. millennial.

        --
        Account abandoned.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:37AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:37AM (#517479)

    Do you get off to apologizing or something?

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:41AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:41AM (#517481)

      MDC gets off to apologizing, talking to strangers, the sound of his own voice, and oh yes seeing his words in print on the internet.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:43AM (17 children)

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:43AM (#517482) Homepage

    Hey, you're right. All Muslims don't want to kill you, only 98% of them do. 1 additional percent of Muslims ("moderate Muslims") will stand by and cheer your killers on and the remaining 1 percent will stay silent so that they can lie in wait to import their sons to kill your sons at a later date.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:51AM (#517486)

      I was so hoping Ethanol-fueled and Jeremy Christian were the same person. I am disappoint.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:56AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:56AM (#517487)

      Do you ever stop drinking? Seriously man, give it a break!

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:44AM (14 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:44AM (#517562) Journal

      You're being just a little silly, and exaggerating.

      Let's take prohibition. Do you really think that an entire generation of Americans decided that alcohol is evil, so they unanimously passed a law against alcohol? No way. A bunch of holier-than-thou assholes decided that America needed to be saved from the scourge of alcohol. Shrill, whiny, twits, who made more and more noise, until they got their way.

      Our national fight against slavery. Do you actually believe that every white person in the North was convinced that black people needed to be saved, and that every white soldier who went off to war was on some kind of personal crusade? Pffft. At least half didn't give a damn. It was the vocal minority that moved things along, until finally there was a war. At least half, and myabe two thirds of the soldiers didn't give a damn about much of anything, except maybe the preservation of the union.

      Muslims. The left is right. Most Muslims really don't want to do you any harm. It's the vocal minority that causes the harm. Unfortunately, Islam has no mechanism with which to keep that vocal minority in check. Sure, Mohammed taught that infidels are to die, but most Muslims can't be bothered to kill an infidel. Jihad is such a pain in the ass, after all. You have to buy a sword, you have to leave your wife(s) and girlfriends behind, you may or may not get good food away from home. And, you're not making filthy lucre at war, unless you capture some slaves.

      Islam's problem is that only 1% or so are violent assholes, and that no one is interested in controlling them. Allah akhbar, if Allah be willing, then Ahmed will kill a few infidels, then come home to be a good citizen.

      Of course, that 1% amounts to about 200,000,000 individuals who want to kill an infidel, with Islam's blessing. Just think what a real nation could accomplish with an army of two hundred million. China can't even boast an army that size.

      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:15AM

        Let's take prohibition. Do you really think that an entire generation of Americans decided that alcohol is evil, so they unanimously passed a law against alcohol? No way. A bunch of holier-than-thou assholes decided that America needed to be saved from the scourge of alcohol. Shrill, whiny, twits, who made more and more noise, until they got their way.

        Actually, the history that led up to Prohibition is much more complex and nuanced than that. I think alcohol (and the current ones on some druge) prohibition was a poor idea. However, there were large social and religious movements which pushed the idea forward for more than a century before Prohibition became a reality.

        You can find a brief overview here:
        http://www.axisresidentialtreatment.com/alcohol-addiction/history-in-america/ [axisresidentialtreatment.com]

        For a more in depth look, Susan Cheever's book [goodreads.com] is a good place to start.

        --
        No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:18AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:18AM (#517586)

        1% is 200,000,000? That would mean there are 20 billion muslims. There are muslims than people on earth?

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:56PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:56PM (#517702) Journal

          You got me - too many zero's. 20,000,000 is plenty enough though.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:33PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:33PM (#517783)

            Your innumeracy goes way beyond not understanding percentages.

            Get back to us with a comparison of the number of violent assholes in islamic nations versus non-islamic nations.

            Ah, here I'll do it for you:

            In predominantly Muslim countries, on average, 0.65 percent of the population perished in major episodes of intrastate violence. In non-Muslim countries, 0.72 percent died in such episodes on average. In the postwar period, Muslim countries suffered slightly less severely from loss of life in major episodes of political violence than non-Muslim countries.

            Homicide rates in Muslim-majority countries average about two murders per annum per 100,000 people. In non-Muslim countries, the average rate is about 8 per 100,000. Murder rates fluctuate from year to year, but they are consistently low in Muslim societies. The homicide rate in Indonesia, the world’s largest Muslim country, is 1 per 100,000—one-fifth the rate of the world’s largest Christian country, the United States. Christian countries live with murder rates that are unknown in the Muslim world. Brazilians and Mexicans are used to murder rates in the 15-25 range; the rate in Venezuela tops 50. Turks, Egyptians, Iranians, and Malaysians live with rates in the 2-4 range. In a good year, Christian South Africa lives with a murder rate of around 30. In a bad year, the rate in Muslim Senegal is one-tenth of that.

            Differences this big call for an explanation. We can rule out several possibilities. One is that Muslims live under more authoritarian political regimes where the bad guys have more to fear from the authorities. In fact, the data show that authoritarian regimes do no better at controlling violent crime than democracies do. Even if Muslims generally live under harsher political regimes, they are not less prone to crime for that reason.

            Sacred texts don’t explain anything either. The Quran staunchly prohibits murder. But the Bible and the foundational texts of every other major religion do as well.

            But one possible explanation arises from the data: Greater socioeconomic inequality is correlated with higher homicide rates, and Muslim societies have comparatively low levels of inequality. The regions with the most murder, Latin America and southern Africa, also have the highest values on the so-called Gini score, the statistic that economists and political scientists use to measure class inequality. High economic inequalities (which is what a high Gini score indicates) and high murder rates go together. Statistical analysis shows that countries with proportionately larger Muslim populations have lower Gini scores and lower murder rates.

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/15/no-islam-isn-t-inherently-violent-and-the-math-proves-it.html [thedailybeast.com]

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:13PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:13PM (#517919)

              Ah, I love the sound of Runaway being corrected in the morning! It's like the smell, of Chinese population figures.

      • (Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:37PM (3 children)

        by curunir_wolf (4772) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:37PM (#517786)

        Sure, Mohammed taught that infidels are to die, but most Muslims can't be bothered to kill an infidel.

        Infidels, to Mohammed, were the atheists and polytheists, not the Christians and Jews, whom Mohammed considered brothers, not infidels.

        --
        I am a crackpot
        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:44PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:44PM (#517791) Journal

          You need to look at that again. A Christian is an infidel. He can, however, be permitted to live, if he pays the jizya. The Christian and the Jew is tolerated because they are monotheistic, and the recognize the prophets that Mohammed claimed to succeed.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:22PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:22PM (#517924)

            Runaway, guess what? You are wrong! Wrong again! Still wrong! You know nothing whereof you speak! Let me help a little. You know that American Marine corps slogan? Yeah, that one! What was it? Right! Semper Fi. What language is that? Ok, it is Latin, and shortened at that.

              The full phrase should be "semper fidelis". "Fidelity" means faith, allegience, things like that. So an "infidel" is someone who has broken trust, someone of "bad faith". Now "infidels" in Islam refers to those who convert to Islam, but then either reject it, or attempt to mess with the faith out of base motives. Christians, and even atheists, are not infidels, since they never pretended to convert, well at least all Christians other than Southern Baptist and Pentecostals and Dominionists and the Branch Dravidians and . . . ok, never pretended to owe faith to Islam. So not infidels, no mandated killing in the Koran. You are wrong. Sometimes, I think you are stupid wrong, on purpose.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:36PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:36PM (#517934) Journal

              Even if you are correct, you are merely making the case that Islam is a totalitarian system. You don't get to choose anything. Everything is already decided for you, and you are expected to conform - or die.

              But, back to the word "infidel". We use infidel, Muslims use kafir. It means "unbeliever". That is, if you don't believe in Allah, you are a kafir, or an infidel. Unbelievers must die.

              http://www.dictionary.com/browse/kafir [dictionary.com]

              Kafir
              [kaf-er, key-fer, kah-]
              Spell Syllables
              Word Origin
              noun, plural Kafirs (especially collectively) Kafir.
              1.
              Also called Nuristani. a member of an Indo-European people of Nuristan.
              2.
              (lowercase) Islam. an infidel or unbeliever.
              3.
              Kaffir (def 1).
              4.
              (lowercase). Also, kaffir. Also called kafir corn. a grain sorghum, Sorghum bicolor caffrorum, having stout, short-jointed, leafy stalks, introduced into the U.S. from southern Africa.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:32PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:32PM (#517844)

        > Sure, Mohammed taught that infidels are to die

        There is no compulsion in religion
        Quran 2:256 [wikipedia.org]

        Verse (ayah) 256 of Al-Baqara is a well-known verse in the Islamic scripture, the Qur'an. The verse includes the phrase that "there is no compulsion in religion". Immediately after making this statement, the Qur'an offers a rationale for it: Since the revelation has, through explanation, clarification, and repetition, clearly distinguished the path of guidance from the path of misguidance, it is now up to people to choose the one or the other path. This verse comes right after the Throne Verse.

        The overwhelming majority of Muslim scholars consider that verse to be a Medinan one, when Muslims lived in their period of political ascendance, and to be non abrogated, including Ibn Taymiyya, Ibn Qayyim, Al-Tabari, Abi ʿUbayd, Al-Jaṣṣās, Makki bin Abi Talib, Al-Nahhas, Ibn Jizziy, Al-Suyuti, Ibn Ashur, Mustafa Zayd, and many others. According to all the theories of language elaborated by Muslim legal scholars, the Qur'anic proclamation that 'There is no compulsion in religion. The right path has been distinguished from error' is as absolute and universal a statement as one finds, and so under no condition should an individual be forced to accept a religion or belief against his or her will according to the Quran.

        The meaning of the principle that there is no compulsion in religion was not limited to freedom of individuals to choose their own religion. Islam also provided non-Muslims with considerable economic, cultural, and administrative rights.

        The rest of the wikipedia article meticulously demolishes all of the typical ignorant arguments that Mo didn't really mean what he said.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:10PM (3 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:10PM (#517918) Journal

          Wikipedia. So, you have a bunch of Muslims who jealously guard that wikipedia article, and you believe it. Or, have you never heard of wikipedia wars before?

          No compulsion, you say. Are you going to believe some wikipedia article, or will you believe the words of a real imam?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDXRwIGB0c [youtube.com]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:25PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:25PM (#517928)

            You're a traitor and a fool who will not survive

            Truer words, etc., etc.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:18AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:18AM (#518064)

            Is that all you've got? Really derp, is that the best you can do? To cite hannity, the guy whose own network shut him down for selling conspiracy theories?
            Meanwhile that may be the single most comprehensively cited wikipedia article in existence.
            It isn't about trusting wikipedia. Its about all of the sources that the wikipedia article synthesizes into an overwhelming deconstruction of your ignorant bigotry.

  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by garrulus on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:28AM (1 child)

    by garrulus (6051) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:28AM (#517558)

    You're a traitor and a fool who will not survive

    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:03PM

      by edIII (791) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:03PM (#517863)

      He's a traitor for apologizing on behalf of the Deplorables, his "countrymen"?

      Hardly. You're not a traitor just because you point out that the "Emperor has no clothes". Two wrongs don't make a right, and the U.S has shit to apologize for. Like bombing women and children, or taking out entire weddings, and I dunno.... does toppling foreign governments and covertly influencing their politics for decades count? Nothing justifies terrorism, but don't act like we haven't been "poking the bear" at the same time. We share some responsibility in cultivating the environment in the Middle East that engenders terrorism, and we absolutely have contributed to the creation of that crucible.

      Just because he apologizes for what he believes the U.S did wrong, does not make him a traitor. In fact, I find it a form of patriotism to care about the honor and soul of the United States of America, blackened as it is. The worst of it? I guess from a White Nationalist point of view, he is indeed a traitor. He befriended and was kind to a brown person. You may as well call him a "nigger lover" then.

      What struck me more than anything about this piece of shit, that seemingly holds your views, is that he was in TWO white supremacy bands called End Empathy and Definite Hate. Yeah, I guess when you have no empathy and embrace hate, that any one that has empathy and offers friendship would be a traitor.

      I bet in your world most of America are traitors ;)

      MDC, you traitorous son of a bitch! Gimme a hug :)

      --
      Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
  • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:48AM

    by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:48AM (#517564) Homepage Journal

    I remember them rolling out those notices when I lived in PDX. Reminds me of home, we've had those type of announcements since the 9-11 attack everywhere. They still feel very 1984-ish to me.

    --
    Still always moving
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:22AM

    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:22AM (#517576) Journal

    > apologizing for my countrymen

    I have bad news for you. You are falling into the trap of collective responsibility. What kind of power you have over your countrymen to be able to take responsibility for them?

    Believing in collective responsibility enables evil men to commit atrocities. The color of the flags they hide under is irrelevant.

    --
    Account abandoned.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:12PM (#517679)

    According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general, as does this passage. “Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive, and they who turn away from ill speech, and they who are observant of zakah, and they who guard their private parts except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed” (Qur’an 23:1-6).

    They’re just meat to them. Slaves. The less resistant, the less able to resist, the better.

    “Croydon teenagers ‘raped vulnerable girls including trusting 17-year-old with Down’s syndrome,’” by Gareth Davies, Croydon Advertiser, March 23, 2015 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
    THREE teenagers accused of raping two “vulnerable” girls with learning difficulties “took advantage” of them to “satisfy their own sexual urges”, a court has heard.

    Nasir Huq, 18, is accused of raping a 17-year-old with Down’s syndrome who jurors were told was a “very trusting” girl who did not have the “capacity” to consent to sex.

    Ameen Noori and his cousin Ahmad Faiq, both 18, are accused of raping another girl with acute special educational needs.

    The three boys deny sexually assaulting the two girls at a flat in Croydon in April 2013.

    Jonathan Polnay, prosecuting, told a jury at Croydon Crown Court today (Monday) the defendants “outrageously took advantage of vulnerable girls with learning difficulties to satisfy their own sexual urges”.

    Both girls are in mainstream schooling but attend a supported learning unit at a college in west London, the court heard.

    The first girl, who was 16 at the time of the alleged incidents, has learning difficulties caused by global developmental delay, a condition which means she has lower intellectual functioning and struggles to communicate.

    Mr Polnay said she had been assessed by forensic psychologist Jennifer Cutler who found she had an IQ of 75.

    The second alleged victim, who has Down’s syndrome, was 17 in April 2013. Dr Cutler found she had an IQ of 57 and demonstrated “significant confusion” about sexual matters, the court heard.

    “The prosecution’s case in relation to [this girl] is her disabilities are such that she is simply not able to consent to sex,” said Mr Polnay.

    “Because she has Down’s syndrome she is not able to process what is appropriate in terms of sex or its implications, for example pregnancy or diseases.”

    The first incidents, relating to four of the six charges on the indictment, allegedly occurred on the evening of April 5.

    Mr Polnay told the court the two girls left college with a friend and got the bus from Hounslow to Hatton Cross where they met Faiq, who the third girl knew, and Noori.

    From Hatton Cross they took a bus to Croydon and went to a shopping centre. While in McDonald’s Faiq told the first girl that Noori, his cousin, liked her.

    “She told him she wasn’t interested and that she didn’t like him in that way,” said Mr Polnay.

    Later that afternoon they went back to a flat in Croydon town centre where Huq lived, though he was not at home. When they got there, Faiq and the third girl went into a bedroom together.

    Jurors were told the first girl went into another room with Noori, who pulled her on top of him so she could not get up. The girl shouted for her friend but when she entered the room Noori told her to go away.

    He then pulled down the girl’s trousers and tried to rape her, the court heard.

    “The Crown’s case, which I hope is clear, is that she did not consent to sex,” said Mr Polnay.

    “Given the circumstances – she was struggling, trying to get away – there is no way he could believe she consented. He did not care.”…

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:17PM (#517683)

    Originally there were seven Arab men arrested for kidnapping a woman at gunpoint and raped her in the basement of a cafe in Helsingborg. Now sentenced two of them, both stateless. One of them already had a deportation order – but still allowed to stay in Sweden as “paperless refugee”.

    28-year-old Khaled Azez Hegrs and 23-year-old Tareq Bakkar, who both have an interpreter needs in Arabic, convicted of gross rape of a woman in the cafe basement water pipe in Helsingborg. The woman was kept in the basement for several hours during the night.

    The woman was forced into a car by four men in Malmö and was then driven to the café on South Street in Helsingborg where more waiting to rape her.

    When the car arrived the woman was taken to the basement of violence. There ripped Khaled woman by the hair, pulled her down on a couch and held her arms and legs with her body weight before he pulled off her clothes. By also threaten that he or others would hurt her with a weapon like objects, he forced her to oral, vaginal and anal intercourse.

    He then explained the woman to the six other Arabs would also rape her, the victim said in interrogation.

    Then they raped although Tareq woman by grabbing her arms, pulling her down on her back and pushing her legs apart.

    The woman told that six of the seven men in turn raped her. On one occasion she was raped by two people simultaneously.

    But according to the prosecutor lacked “sufficient supporting evidence that the correct application requires for a conviction” for five of the men who originally were in custody in the case of detainees were prosecuted by only the other two: Khaled and Tareq.