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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the we're-really-out-to-get-them dept.

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From Inverse.com:

Schizophrenia strikes hard, vicious, and late. A person with the disorder can get all the way through childhood and their teen years without any hallucinations or major disconnects from reality. Then, right on the cusp of adulthood, symptoms of the severe mental disorder can emerge with powerful debilitating effects. Until now, doctors have had no useful, consistent way to see it coming.

But that could change, according to a massive JAMA Psychiatry study published on Wednesday. The research details the first major results from a new branch of personality research that might lead scientists to catch schizophrenia and other severe mental illnesses early –- and perhaps even treat them before they emerge.

The researchers, led by University College London psychiatrist Joseph F. Hayes, Ph.D., found a significant link between a range of teenage personality traits and schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder (an illness that includes symptoms of schizophrenia and certain mood disorders), bipolar disorder, and a group of other illnesses lumped together as "nonaffective psychotic illnesses" (meaning they include psychotic symptoms but not mood disorders).


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:56PM (8 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:56PM (#517751) Journal

    Scares you a bit? It scares the hell out of me. And schoolkid who argues a point with a teacher can be "diagnosed" based on that argument - be it political, religious, scientific, or merely a disagreement over an assignment. We already have this to some extent. ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, autism, and more: https://ldaamerica.org/types-of-learning-disabilities/ [ldaamerica.org]

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:25PM (3 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:25PM (#517776) Journal

    I think your fears are a bit overblown.

    If the kid is right, then he should be diagnosed based on arguing with the teacher and being right.

    If the kid is wrong, then he should be punished for arguing with the teacher and being wrong.

    In the first case it is a learning disability. In the second case it is a discipline problem for suggesting the teacher could have been wrong.

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:04AM

      by kaszz (4211) on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:04AM (#518061) Journal

      Rules:
      (0) The teacher is always right.
      (1) If the teacher should for any reason be wrong, see rule (0)

      Happy life! ;-)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:35AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:35AM (#518075)

      Daaaamn, just re-read what you wrote.

      "diagnosed based on arguing with the teacher and being right"

      "punished for arguing with the teacher and being wrong"

      one is a learning disability, the other is a discipline problem for saying the teacher is wrong?

      Wow, goodbye independent thought, goodbye thoughts that disagree with the status quo.

      Seriously, please realize you just wrote the manifesto for the dystopian future. Literally. Not figuratively, LITERALLY.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday May 31 2017, @02:07PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 31 2017, @02:07PM (#518287) Journal

        please realize you just wrote the manifesto for the dystopian future

        It was intended as a manifesto for a dystopian Betsy DeVoss.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:29PM (2 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:29PM (#517842) Journal

    Bringing it back to TFA, it does seem that their tool could be stretched in just about any direction that was socially orr politically expedient at the moment. To that extent it is a pretty frightening prospect.

    They appear to have three main scales:

    “Mental energy” is, basically, your ability to pay attention to the world around you, focus attention on a task, and react quickly to events.

    So disinterest, lack of sleep, or boredom is bad then?

    “Social maturity” measures your ability to adjust your behavior, when needed, to match the norms and expectations of people around you.

    Too bad for the girl with the purple hair, or they guy refusing to get tattoos then?

    “Emotional stability” refers to your ability to deal with emotions in a healthy way, in proportion to the events that spark them. A more emotionally stable person, for example, might read about a stressful news event, feel worried about it, but be able to carry on with their day. A less emotionally stable person might encounter the same event and get derailed, unable to put aside their worry to tackle tasks at hand.

    So all the snowflakes in meltdown over a lost election really should be under medical watch?

    Like most behavioral science (cough) the net is cast too wide. Perfectly normal kids are given drugs so the sit quietly in school, and mindless conformance (for the convenience of teachers) is a medical goal.

    Scary indeed.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by mhajicek on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:56PM (1 child)

      by mhajicek (51) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:56PM (#517858)

      Sometimes staying calm and adjusting to conform are not sane responses.

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      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:09PM

        by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:09PM (#517868) Journal

        Exactly. Like ordering another round when the bandstand catches fire.

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  • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:38PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:38PM (#517981) Homepage

    I always get a kick out of this medicalized bullshit: Oppositional Defiant Disorder. [pearsonclinical.com]

    Better strap the fuckers down for some ECT and forced medication to reduce them to drooling vegetables.