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posted by martyb on Sunday June 04 2017, @08:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the is-there-a-solution-that-is-less-bad-than-the-problem? dept.

If it seems like every week, there's another terrorist attack – well, you're not wrong. According to one crowdsourcing map, there have been over 500 attacks around the world since the start of 2017, with over 3,500 fatalities. For a period in 2016, ISIS-initiated attacks were occurring, on average, every 84 hours.

Despite improvements in methods and coordination among law enforcement agencies over the past 25 years, they're still hamstrung in a number of ways. With large public gatherings of people becoming more attractive targets for terrorists, what are the best strategies moving forward?

[...] But despite huge budgets and the presence of thousands of added security personnel, it's virtually impossible to prevent a determined terrorist, or guarantee absolute safety. While security efforts for events like the Olympic Games have escalated, terrorists today no longer wait for major events that draw global interest.

[...] The odds are in favor of terrorists. All they have to do is succeed once, no matter how many times they try. For public safety professionals to be fully successful, they have to prevent 100 percent of the terror attempts. It's a number to aspire to, but even the most experienced countries fighting terror – such as Israel and the U.K. – can't measure up to this standard.

[...] These days, it's necessary to consider any place where crowds congregate as vulnerable "soft targets" for the attackers. To better prepare for securing soft targets (and this isn't to say threats against "hard targets," like planes, buildings and infrastructure, have diminished) law enforcement agencies must improve coordination among one another, whether it's via intelligence, information sharing and training. And then there's the need for deconfliction, which refers to avoiding self-defeating behavior – from interagency rivalries and poor communication to insufficient coordination – by people who are on the same side.

[...] Given that there is no way to guarantee complete safety, and that the threat assessment expects more attacks, there are two more elements that ought to receive more attention: community resilience and community policing.

https://theconversation.com/how-can-we-better-protect-crowds-from-terrorism-78443

[Related]:

1996 Atlanta Olympic Games: https://www.britannica.com/event/Atlanta-Olympic-Games-bombing-of-1996

Secure Airport Design: https://skift.com/2016/07/04/how-smart-airport-design-can-make-spaces-more-secure/

Do you agree with this assessment of the security situation ? What do you think could be done to mitigate the effects of such asymmetric warfare ?


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  • (Score: 2) by leftover on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:09PM (4 children)

    by leftover (2448) on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:09PM (#520428)

    This, exactly.
    We do not (all) need to carry around automatic weapons, often not even firearms.
    The best weapon is a combination of competence and awareness.

    Given those, a pointy or edged something would be mighty nice to have close!

    The off-duty policeman in London who resorted to tackling a knife-wielding thug
    deserves credit for bravery. He is also in critical condition. Another policeman
    had only his baton but did the best he could, he is is serious condition. Their
    equipment and training has not kept pace with the threats.

    I would much prefer these gents to have training in unarmed fighting and stick fighting.
    They could likely fashion a usable pointy stick on the spot and employ it
    more selectively than a firearm.

    However, in some situations the very best solution is a good guy with a gun and
    the training to use it with precision. Here in Ohio, this Spring at The Ohio State University,
    we had an incident where a Muslim immigrant turned Islamist drove his car into a crowd
    outside a building. He then proceeded to attack people with knives until a campus policeman
    arrived and shot him. One of my kids was in the building next door. She was never in
    any real danger but I would still probably favor machine gun nests on campus buildings,
    manned by Dads of current students. (Mothers are too ferocious!)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:55PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:55PM (#520451)

    London [...] policeman had only his baton

    There are so many non-lethal weapons currently deployed by cops, it angers me when a cop's first move is to pull a gun.
    Tasers and pepper spray are VERY effective.
    A stick will cover most situations.
    Some PDs have discovered that nunchucks [google.com] are far more versatile.

    ...and I quite like the way the UK PD has special firearm officers.
    I also like the way Bobbies are a -national- service.

    Their equipment and training has not kept pace with the threats

    Amen. Accent on "training". See "nunchucks", above.

    a pointy or edged something

    Disagree strongly.
    Most situations can be defused via non-lethal weapons.

    .
    ...and, as with another commenter in this (meta)thread, I question the wisdom of your use of hard linebreaks in the middle of sentences.

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 05 2017, @02:09AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 05 2017, @02:09AM (#520519) Journal

      You're talking more sensibly here. US cops, especially, do resort to firearms far to readily. (That would change if they knew for a fact that all adult males were armed!) But, guns or not, everyone should be armed.

      Armed men and women don't make very good victims.

      "Most situations can be defused via non-lethal weapons."

      That's what martial arts teachers teach. "If you run around killing people, you're an idiot, but THIS is how you kill people!" BTW, you do realize than nunchucks are a lethal weapon? In the hands of a trained person, a ball point pen is a lethal weapon. The well trained soldier or cop is the most lethal weapon in the world, stop concentrating on which tools they use.

    • (Score: 2) by leftover on Monday June 05 2017, @02:17AM (1 child)

      by leftover (2448) on Monday June 05 2017, @02:17AM (#520522)

      Mostly agree. Regarding nunchucks, I usually associate them with two user groups:
      One is the Bruce Lee group (population 1) who can play multiple simultaneous games of ping-pong with them.
      The other is people who hit themselves in the face with them (population huge). A stick is much simpler to
      make and to use. Also, by 'precision' I was referring to disabling without killing. Jihadists want to die, why give them that?

      For myself, I am in denial about being 'old' but aware it is close. For me to be effective in a fracas I will need some leverage.
      My solution is a replacement sledge hammer handle, about a yard long, with a six inch (less tang) pointy bit on the end
      and short arms to trap an attackers blade. Some mud and plant stains make it a credible landscaping tool.

      And regarding line breaks: I don't want to make people scroll sideways, it seems rude somehow.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @03:05AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @03:05AM (#520549)

        A stick is much simpler to make and to use

        I already used the word "versatile".
        You can hold both ends in 1 hand and have a stick.
        You can also use it like a nutcracker to apply pressure to a forearm and get instant compliance.
        The fact that is suddenly becomes twice as long when 1 end is released is for those situations that call for that.

        I don't think you've seen a proper demonstration of the multitude of proper uses by police.

        regarding line breaks: I don't want to make people scroll sideways

        I don't think that you understand how HTML works at all.
        No one else does what you do, yet their text appears normally.
        Whitespace at/near the end of the line will allow for automatic linefeeds that make the text flow.
        The only way to get what you described is to PURPOSELY put non-breaking spaces between all your words.
        ...or to make a string of unbroken text (no spaces) that is longer than the viewer's window is (e.g. a heinously-long URL).
        ...and the way this site's stylesheet works, even that last thing is dealt with to avoid scrollbars.

        What you are doing is absolutely unnecessary.
        ...and, as I said to the other guy, making assumptions about what other folks have for a system configuration is bound to not work for everyone anyway.

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