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El Reg has an interesting read on an OSS developers survey:
Most of the negative behaviour is explained as "rudeness", which has been experienced witnessed by 45 per cent of participants and experienced by 16 per cent. GitHub's summary of the survey says really nasty stuff like "sexual advances, stalking, or doxxing are each encountered by less than five per cent of respondents and experienced by less than two per cent (but cumulatively witnessed by 14%, and experienced by three per cent)." Twenty five per cent of women respondents reported experiencing "language or content that makes them feel unwelcome", compared to 15 per cent of men.
This stuff has consequences: 21 per cent of those who see negative behaviour bail from projects they were working on.
Now I take an entirely different conclusion than El Reg on this. To me this says that two or three percent of respondents have valid reason to bitch about bad behavior but a further eighteen or nineteen percent above that simply are not capable of working with other people. Come on, who here has never held a job where someone on staff was a dickhead/bitch but you kept on working anyway? Me, I've not once held a job where there were zero personality conflicts. In my less than humble opinion, part of being an adult is being able to deal professionally or at least civilly with other human beings who do not cater to your every sensitivity.
Maybe I'm just a relic of the past though. Maybe the future really is a bunch of snowflakes crying to $boss to get you fired if you say or do anything they dislike.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:35PM (7 children)
Erm, that's actually the truth. I've got four bosses not counting the board/shareholders (paulej72 for devs, mechanicjay and paulej72 for admins, Deucalion and NCommander as management). The only ones I even get to remotely boss around are Xyem and FatPhil and they just started coding for us within the past month.
Interesting scenario. I'd probably argue like hell and if I lost I'd turn off js for the site. Refusing to code it is a foregone conclusion since none of us work on anything we don't feel the urge to work on unless we broke the site and have to emergency fix it. If everything went to complete and utter shit I'd fork it.
Now we do have some quality political arguments in IRC and in the comments. We also have some blazing rows over code (I got called a Microsoft dev earlier this week). We just got extremely lucky in not picking up any staff members who aren't able to compartmentalize well enough and not take any of it personally. You know, mature adults.
As for chasing off staff, most all of our turnover is because of either offline difficulties or lack of enthusiasm. Which is fair. I mean last year I didn't feel like coding for around six months, so I didn't. The only butthurt that's ever happened on staff here was the thing with Barrabas back at the very beginning.
All in all, this is hands down the best work environment I've ever had the privilege of experiencing.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @12:30AM (4 children)
The one thing that makes sociopaths happy is when other people accept their sociopathy as normal.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 08 2017, @12:40AM (3 children)
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @12:54AM (1 child)
Superficial charm and good intelligence
Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations
Unreliability
Untruthfulness and insincerity
Lack of remorse and shame
Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
General poverty in major affective reactions
Specific loss of insight
Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
Fantastic and uninviting behavior with alcohol and sometimes without
Suicide threats rarely carried out
Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
Failure to follow any life plan
You match a few of those for sure. I wouldn't actually consider you a sociopath, just your online persona. You're actually just a lame troll with sociopathic tendencies. But hey, I could be wrong maybe you are full sociopath. You have adequately displayed these ones, but the internet breeds these traits from certain demographics.
Lack of remorse and shame
Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
General poverty in major affective reactions
Specific loss of insight
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 08 2017, @01:06AM
Since that was a well presented reply, I'll go ahead and respond in kind. I am nothing even approaching a sociopath. Their defining characteristic is that they do not feel empathy. I do. I do not, however, let my emotions control my rational mind, so letting those of others dictate what I think is right out. This does not make me a sociopath, simply a rational adult.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:26PM
Awww someone is a big fan.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @12:46AM (1 child)
I'd like to see some transcripts of these conversations where the "mature adults" manage to not take things personally. Let's see if they are really that bad and compare to other examples where you claim people are immature whiners. Also we'll need some psych profiles so we can tell if the sample groups can even be correlated.
I have a suspicion that your groups become self-selected to have similar group members. Contributing to OSS projects often does not include much detail on the other contributors so it is hard to select people you'd enjoy working with. Given the tendency for coders to power trip on their own egos I can understand why this has become a problem. Oddly enough the jerks are the ones who never seem to have a problem.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 08 2017, @01:14AM
Your wish is my command: https://logs.sylnt.us/ [sylnt.us] Check the past week in #dev if you like, wherein FatPhil schooled me on web standards and even called me a Microsoft coder.
You do know that we are an OSS project [github.com], yes? We've just been exceedingly fortunate in our staffing. I'd chalk it up to wise management but we pretty much never turn help away, so it's the quality of volunteers entirely.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.