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posted by on Friday June 09 2017, @08:19AM   Printer-friendly
from the we-rise dept.

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So as we've been noting, a lot of people remain under the impression that companies like Google and Netflix still support net neutrality, and they'll be rushing in any moment now to help thwart the FCC's latest attempt to kill the rules. In reality, Techdirt readers know that Google hasn't actually supported net neutrality since around 2010 or so. Netflix, also perceived as a consumer ally on the subject, made it clear recently that it no longer sees the need to fight for net neutrality now that it's an international video powerhouse. The company's shift from disruption engines to slightly myopic legacy turf protectors should surprise nobody.

That said, Google and Netflix's departure from the conversation left many net neutrality advocates wondering if any bigger companies would be willing to lend a hand in the latest chapter in the debate. Amazon managed to answer that question this week by throwing its weight behind a July 12 "Day of Action" being coordinated by consumer advocacy group Fight For the Future. According to the group's website, Amazon will join Reddit, Etsy, the ACLU, California ISP Sonic, Mozilla, Kickstarter, BitTorrent, Github and Vimeo for a day of protest -- both online and off -- against the FCC's plan to gut the popular consumer protections.

The plan appears to be to mirror the Internet Slowdown Day back in 2014. You'll recall that that effort, which involved numerous major websites warning their visitors about the threat to net neutrality via site banners, helped convince Tom Wheeler to stop half-assing things, and classify ISPs as common carriers under Title II of the Communications Act (giving them the adequate legal authority to enforce the rules). His decision was subsequently supported by the courts.

Source: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170606/11072937528/reddit-amazon-push-day-action-july-12-to-protest-killing-net-neutrality.shtml


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @08:44AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @08:44AM (#522981)

    Problem was that the laws that were struck down had nothing to do with ISP regulation, more of what the FCC is allowed to do.

    Should the FCC be allowed to arbitrarily set what each ISP's service level agreement is?
    Will this be abused to favor certain ISPs?
    Can the unelected chairs of the FCC shutdown large swathes of the Internet due to accusations of violating the service level agreement that is also set by the FCC?

    Complications and more complications.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @09:07AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @09:07AM (#522984)

    No, it's all very simple. Do you want only Facebook or do you want the entire internet? Only net neutrality will give you the internet instead of few nasty oligarchs.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by kaszz on Friday June 09 2017, @09:27AM (2 children)

      by kaszz (4211) on Friday June 09 2017, @09:27AM (#522987) Journal

      Time for ISPs to give Facebook a slooooowww motion coooonnnection? ;)
      Special routerd version :p

      Maybe Facebook will get a new BGP announcement of being available at 0.0.0.0/32 ;)

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday June 09 2017, @05:39PM (1 child)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday June 09 2017, @05:39PM (#523169) Journal

        Time for ISPs to give Facebook a slooooowww motion coooonnnection? ;)

        I smell a Kickstarter! With the demise of NN we should all chip in to buy Facebook a slow-lane!

        • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday June 09 2017, @05:52PM

          by kaszz (4211) on Friday June 09 2017, @05:52PM (#523176) Journal

          I'm thinking more of network technicians that intentionally make connections to Facebook slow and error prone ;)
          "oops"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @10:02AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @10:02AM (#522992)

      Do you want some bureaucrat deciding the only ISP in your area should be shut down?

      • (Score: 2) by kaganar on Friday June 09 2017, @01:37PM

        by kaganar (605) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:37PM (#523046)

        Do you want some bureaucrat deciding the only ISP in your area should be shut down?

        No, but I don't like bureaucrats deciding I only can have one viable "high-speed" ISP because somehow cable companies don't provide telecommunications. If we're going to allow regional monopolies, then we can't pretend capitalism or other market forces are going to work. This bullshit of big-money businesses "just wouldn't do bad things" is so incredibly stupid, especially coming out of the mouths of reps for companies with fantastic margins due to unscrupulous tactics. Money is power, and power corrupts -- but somehow that logic only seems to apply to politicians we don't like these days and all so-called businessmen get a pass because "it's what businessmen are supposed to do."

        If we want to strip away powers from the current groups that can regulate, then we need another regulatory force. Capitalism isn't that force because there's insufficient competition.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @06:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @06:07PM (#523182)

        Well, since you asked, I don't want some bureaucrat deciding that no other ISPs, especially municipal projects by the people and for the people, may operate in my area, you fucking cocksucking tool insensitive clod....