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posted by martyb on Friday June 09 2017, @12:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the merging-the-swamps dept.

We had three different political stories submitted. In the interest of trying to keep political discussions from spilling over into other stories, I have merged them all into this one story. If you are not interested in politics, you are free to ignore this story — another story will be along presently. --martyb

Tories Turned Over in UK General Election

FTFA:

Theresa May will visit Buckingham Palace at 12:30 BST to seek permission to form a new UK government, despite losing her Commons majority.

She is seeking to stay in office on the understanding that the Democratic Unionists of Northern Ireland will support her minority administration.

With one seat left to declare, the Tories are eight seats short of the 326 figure needed to command a majority.

BBC
The Guardian
Telegraph (beware awful ads, but it's a Tory broadsheet)

In other news:
* The UK stock market is up but the pound is down
* European leaders react with a mix of incredulity, conciliatory statements; Brexit plans in tatters
* Record number of female MPs returned; overall high turnout

Fired FBI Director James Comey Lays out the Case That President Trump Obstructed Justice

Former FBI director James B. Comey on Thursday essentially laid out an obstruction of justice case against President Trump and suggested senior leaders in the bureau might have actually contemplated the matter before Trump removed him as director.

Comey did not explicitly draw any legal conclusions. Whether justice was obstructed, he said, was a question for recently appointed special counsel Robert Mueller. But he said Trump’s request to terminate the FBI’s investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn left him “stunned,” and senior FBI officials considered it to be of “investigative interest.”

Of particular concern, Comey said, was that Trump asked other officials to leave him alone with his FBI director in the Oval Office before saying of Flynn: “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”

“Why did he kick everybody out of the Oval Office?” Comey said. “That, to me as an investigator, is a very significant fact.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/james-b-comey-lays-out-the-case-that-president-trump-obstructed-justice/2017/06/08/e7f49a42-4c4d-11e7-bc1b-fddbd8359dee_story.html?utm_term=.e1e154c39312

President Donald J. Trump Announces Intent to Nominate Christopher A. Wray to be Director of FBI

June 7, 2017 at 7:05 PM ET by The White House

Today, President Donald J. Trump announced he will nominate Christopher Asher Wray as the new Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Wray graduated cum laude from Yale University in 1989, then continued on to receive his law degree from Yale Law School in 1992. He started his legal career as a clerk to Judge J. Michael Luttig of the United States Court of Appeals.

In 1997, Wray began his extensive public service career as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia. In May 2001, Wray became the Associate Deputy Attorney General of the Department of Justice and within five months he was appointed the Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General. He was a vital member of the DOJ’s operations during and following the 9/11 attacks.

Wray was appointed to serve as the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the U.S. DOJ’s Criminal Division by President George W. Bush and was confirmed unanimously by the Senate. He led federal criminal law investigations in areas, including: securities fraud, healthcare fraud, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and trade sanctions violations, bank secrecy and money laundering offenses, public corruption, and intellectual property piracy and cybercrime. While he was head of the Criminal Division from 2003 to 2005, Wray worked tirelessly to counteract the wave of corporate fraud scandals and to restore trust in the U.S. financial system. At the end of his term, Wray was given the Edmund J. Randolph Award, which is the DOJ’s most prestigious award for leadership and public service.

Since leaving the DOJ in 2005, Wray has worked as a litigation partner at King & Spalding. He chairs the King & Spalding Special Matters and Government Investigations Practice Group, which specializes in white-collar crimes and regulatory enforcement. He has represented Fortune 100 companies and ranked as a leading litigator by Chambers USA, Best Lawyers in America, and Legal 500. Wray has performed successful oral arguments in front of the U.S. Supreme Court, as well as the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.

His wealth of experience in government enforcement and jurisprudence makes Christopher A. Wray an outstanding choice as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @01:10PM (41 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @01:10PM (#523026)

    Are you for example going to lump technical things into another thread too? Heck, all we need is one thread that lumps everything together, journals included...

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by kaszz on Friday June 09 2017, @01:18PM (22 children)

    by kaszz (4211) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:18PM (#523032) Journal

    It is a site about technology, not politics. So politics should only be involved as far as it touches are affects the use of technology. But if Washington would disappear into a sinkhole that would.. not matter. But if New York disappeared into a sinkhole that would matter and be news because all those switches and servers along with techs would be missing. ;)
     

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday June 09 2017, @01:28PM (7 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 09 2017, @01:28PM (#523038) Journal

      It is a site about technology, not politics.

      1. Soylentnews is people - read the logo
      2. people are political monkeys - Aristotle used some other words (he didn't have the chance to share a bottle or two with Darwin); I believe our aristarchus was a close friend of 'Totle, maybe he can provide a better quote.

      So, where your impression SN is about technology came from?

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      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @01:34PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @01:34PM (#523043)
        http://slashdot.com
        • (Score: 3, Informative) by zocalo on Friday June 09 2017, @02:22PM (1 child)

          by zocalo (302) on Friday June 09 2017, @02:22PM (#523070)
          Slashdot dumped the "News for Nerds" tag ages ago, before "Fuck Beta" and the creation of Soylent IIRC, and currently runs far more stories without a specific tech angle than Soylent does. That's particularly noticeable not only in their politics coverage, but also of every single legal spat that Uber - and to a lesser extent AirBnB - seem to get themselves mired in. The latter despite the fact that, when you get right down to it, other than being disruptive in their markets both companies are not really any different to any other non-tech company that happens to have an App and a DB; Wallmart and many others probably have more customer data than both combined, yet you don't get anything like as many stories about them.

          I'll give you Uber's self driving car development programme though; that saga would make for some absolutely hilarious car crash TV (pun absolutely intended).
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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:46PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:46PM (#523117)

            I'll give you Uber's self driving car development programme though;

            Would you mind to keep it for yourself?
            It's more than useless for me.

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday June 09 2017, @02:39PM (2 children)

          by tangomargarine (667) on Friday June 09 2017, @02:39PM (#523083)

          It's actually slashdot.org, but .com apparently redirects to there.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:39PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:39PM (#523116)

            It's actually a commercial site, and has been for years.

            • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday June 09 2017, @04:02PM

              by tangomargarine (667) on Friday June 09 2017, @04:02PM (#523129)

              Not that that really matters one way or the other. You still end up on the .org domain.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Friday June 09 2017, @07:32PM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Friday June 09 2017, @07:32PM (#523228) Journal

        Aristotle was just a bit before my time, but:

        Aristotle used some other words

        The words are "ζῷον πολιτικόν", or political animals.

        Doesn't excuse this mis-mash of an article, however.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Friday June 09 2017, @01:31PM (2 children)

      by bradley13 (3053) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:31PM (#523040) Homepage Journal

      I think political topics are - within limits - important on Soylent. Like it or not, politics is the backdrop against which we operate technology.

      - Theresa May's election is relevant, because it affect Brexit, which will affect technology companies throughout Europe. Also, she's sufficiently deluded to think that human rights don't matter, and encryption should be the first technological casualty.

      - US national politics are relevant, because the US is the source of an awful lot of the technology that we all use daily.

      Finally, technical people have a different take on politics. I like reading what other techies think. For better or for worse, I value your/our opinions more than the opinions of most other groups.

      Political stories go into their own nexus; they are easily identifiable. I've never tested it, but I assume the setting to hide stories on unwanted nexuses (nexii?) works, so people who dislike political stories can ignore them.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday June 10 2017, @03:33AM

        by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday June 10 2017, @03:33AM (#523370) Journal

        stories on unwanted nexuses (nexii?)

        It's "nexuses." The English plural with -s or -es is almost always a valid option. Despite the fact that I'm familiar with classical languages, I've never understood the bizarre desire of English speakers to attempt to form plurals in a non-native way. Just add -s or -es if you're uncertain and be done with it.

        For the record, nexus is fourth declension; hence the Latin plural of nexus is nexūs.

      • (Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Saturday June 10 2017, @11:08AM

        by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <axehandleNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday June 10 2017, @11:08AM (#523458)

        because the US is the source of an awful lot of the awful technology that we all use daily

        Just thinking of my car I had to fix it.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Friday June 09 2017, @01:35PM (8 children)

      by PiMuNu (3823) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:35PM (#523045)

      So I live in the UK. Next time there is a US presidential election, you wanna lump that in with a story about some innards of how GCHQ works?

      There's quite a few non-US folks here.

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by Webweasel on Friday June 09 2017, @01:39PM (7 children)

        by Webweasel (567) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:39PM (#523051) Homepage Journal

        /me waves the union flag in a half-hearted were all fucked manner.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @02:04PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @02:04PM (#523063)

          /me waves the union flag in a half-hearted were all fucked manner.

          Nice, positive, can-do attitude you have there. A major portion of the UKIP vote went to Labour, firmly dispelling the hysterical "racist rightwing bigot" style slander that has plagued and retarded political discourse for far too long. Theresa May's tone-deaf domestic Manifesto was roundly rejected by the electorate -- and rightly so. The DUP... even Northern Irish republicans will be on side with them when it comes to maintaining an open border with Ireland. Democracy has a way...

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Webweasel on Friday June 09 2017, @02:47PM (3 children)

            by Webweasel (567) on Friday June 09 2017, @02:47PM (#523091) Homepage Journal

            Not sure what point your trying to make there?

            As for a positive can do attitude, that's impossible under first past the post.

            So what were my options for voting yesterday?

            A) Conservative. Who want to spy on our interwebz. Nope.
            B) Labour, with a leader who won't press the nuclear button and thinks ideology is more important than pragmatism? Nope
            C) Lib dems. With a gay hating leader. Nope
            D) Independent candidate, some Christian guy. Nope. Got 800 votes
            E) Independent candidate, some Women, never even heard of her before let alone seeing a manifesto. Nope (140 votes)

            I live in a safe conservative seat. The winning conservative candidate won by over 10,000 votes. No one else was even worth considering voting for due to their political positions not matching mine.

            And now we have the DUP being the tail wagging the dog. Great.

            So how, pray tell kind anonymous coward would you suggest I could have a can do attitude? No one represents me. New political parties take generations to come to power. Proportional representation was rejected by the UK people years ago. Nothing I could have done would have made a difference. All I can really do is look after me and mine and occasionally shit post on the internet. I don't even have political views anymore, I am widely read enough to convince myself of both sides of the argument for about any topic leaving me with middle of the road attitude that is not represented by anyone.

            The only real concern I have about this result is that Brexit is fucked now. WTO rules here we come. Wait... tariffs are limited to 2.6% and a lot of goods will now be cheaper as a result? Bring on no deal thanks!

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            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:05PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:05PM (#523101)

              As you say, first-past-the-post does a bad job of representing voters' interests. And because the voting reform referendum failed in the UK not that long ago, getting voting reform in the UK any time soon is unlikely, but still worth making noise about.

              Unfortunately, of those bad choices, someone is going to get elected, so it's still in your interest to vote tactically either to (1) minimize the chances of the worst outcomes in your view or (2) to signal to the winner approximately what platform they should look at to get more voters in the future (matters more if the vote has tight margins, of course).

              There's the additional point, which I think is overlooked far too often in excuses for voter apathy, that who votes is recorded and important independent of what they vote for. You have a lot more voice in polls and directly contacting your representatives if you are a voter (even if you leave the ballot blank): politicians have no reason to care at all about what non-voters think and the received wisdom, at least for pollsters in the US, is that if you didn't vote in the last election, you won't vote in the next one, either.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:14PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:14PM (#523103)

              Proportional representation was rejected by the UK people years ago.

              True, unfortunately.

              So how, pray tell kind anonymous coward would you suggest I could have a can do attitude?

              This is 2017, people no longer vote for a candidate, they vote tactically against the party they dislike most. I expect you are familiar with the Hegelian dialectic?

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:35PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @03:35PM (#523113)

              Lord Sutch, your country needs you.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Pax on Friday June 09 2017, @02:09PM (1 child)

          by Pax (5056) on Friday June 09 2017, @02:09PM (#523066)

          /me waves the union flag in a half-hearted were all fucked manner.

          /me waves a Saltire in a manner that suggest i just took a whole bottle of "fukitol"

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday June 09 2017, @03:53PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Friday June 09 2017, @03:53PM (#523118) Journal

            Whoooa: you can afford 'fukitol'?

            Can you spare a dime, Richy Rich?

            I'm stuck with 'fukitol max-lite-zero'. :(

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Friday June 09 2017, @02:31PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 09 2017, @02:31PM (#523075) Journal

      if New York disappeared into a sinkhole that would matter and be news because all those switches and servers along with techs would be missing

      If New York were to disappear into New Jersey, as I infer, the ping times might be a bit longer. The techs would all demand to work remotely.

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    • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Saturday June 10 2017, @04:23AM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Saturday June 10 2017, @04:23AM (#523381) Homepage Journal

      Technically, all our servers are hosted in Dallas except the off site storage, so the loss of New York City would only affect me personally.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 09 2017, @01:32PM (11 children)

    +1 Insightful to kaszz

    Last I heard, the eds attempt to run no more than one Politics story a day. It just so happens three were relevant and timely news this morning, which is quite uncommon.

    The politics nexus is not there because we want more political stories; it's there so people who don't can set their preferences to not have to see it even once a day.

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    • (Score: 5, Funny) by c0lo on Friday June 09 2017, @01:46PM (6 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 09 2017, @01:46PM (#523056) Journal

      Since it is possible for those who do not want politics to avoid them, what is the justification to lump 3 politics stories into one?
      Punish soylenters who like politics or what?

      You can defend your editor minions as much as you like, that doesn't make screw-ups right!

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 09 2017, @05:02PM (3 children)

        Mostly the 20:1 ratio of ACs to registered users we have. ACs can't turn Politics off.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @07:55PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @07:55PM (#523234)

          Mostly the 20:1 ratio of ACs to registered users we have. ACs can't turn Politics off.

          Well that doesn't sound like a problem... It can encourage people to register if they don't like seeing political stories.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Friday June 09 2017, @09:57PM (1 child)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 09 2017, @09:57PM (#523294) Journal

          Yeah, Ok, I get it; you favour 20 AC against a subscriber/donor.
          Lemme sleep on this for a while.

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      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Friday June 09 2017, @09:59PM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 09 2017, @09:59PM (#523297) Journal

        Punish soylenters who like politics or what?

        Is there a problem here? Is there not enough lashings? Add fines? More public humiliation? Torture? There's thousands of years of creative punishment and whatnot. We should be able to come up with a mix that meets your standards while not loading the server down too much.

        More seriously, there has been a lot of DRAMA about the inclusion of political stories. I'm sure some of our more delicate ACs would flip out if there were to be three political stories on the front page about populist politics gone awry. It'd be an alt-right apocalypse or something.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 10 2017, @06:43AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 10 2017, @06:43AM (#523416)

          Sorry to inform our alt-right special snowflakes but the world doesn't stop turning when you close your eyes.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by edIII on Friday June 09 2017, @08:17PM

      by edIII (791) on Friday June 09 2017, @08:17PM (#523240)

      I guess I'm one of the few that find it reasonable what the editors did.... It represents reality. Create a big room, label it politics, and get Tina Turner on a mic to be the sportscaster :)

      Ohh, and you definitely have to be part of Master Blaster. Not sure which end though ;)

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Joe Desertrat on Friday June 09 2017, @10:35PM (2 children)

      by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Friday June 09 2017, @10:35PM (#523309)

      Not sure what your rules are on submissions, do you simply publish them in order as submitted or can you hold them back for a time before releasing them into the newsfeed? This experiment of lumping three together apparently does not work, it just turned into a whinefest about the articles being joined together. It might have been better to spread them out into three different submissions.
      As for those who complain this is supposed to be a tech site, why is it that hardcore tech articles generally only have a very few comments, sometimes in the single digits, while the political articles invariably get far more comments?

      • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday June 10 2017, @03:45AM

        by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday June 10 2017, @03:45AM (#523371) Journal

        As for those who complain this is supposed to be a tech site, why is it that hardcore tech articles generally only have a very few comments, sometimes in the single digits, while the political articles invariably get far more comments?

        I don't think it's the norm for "tech" articles to get single digits (though it sometimes happens). Science articles, maybe. I suspect science articles get few comments because to actually comment meaningfully, you'd have to, well, RTFA. And perhaps even read the original study. Even back on Slashdot in olden times, science articles that got lots of comments weren't debating science -- they generally accumulated some sort of random debate that was only tangentially connected if not completely OT.

        But yes, politics gets more comments. It's easier to have an opinion, easier to troll, and more likely to spur ongoing discussion because of the opinion-based nature. A hard science or tech article can accumulate comments that pose questions or offer additional information. But those sorts of things may not create ongoing debate.

        I'd like to think (though I have no proof of this) that the lower comment count for science/tech articles isn't because people aren't interested or don't at least glance at the summaries and articles posted here -- it's just that it takes more effort to discuss technical stuff. Nonetheless, I try to make an effort to read the original sources and post comments on some "neglected" science and tech articles, in hopes of generating more interest.

      • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Saturday June 10 2017, @04:25AM

        by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Saturday June 10 2017, @04:25AM (#523383) Homepage Journal

        To answer this question: The short version is yes.

        The longer version is it depends. If we're dealing with a story drought, we might hold some articles that aren't time sensitive for another day to help pad things out over the weekend. Usually though, if its something we like, it goes in a FIFO queue. Breaking news can also bump another story later in the day. Meta articles also will bump something based on an event if its sudden (i.e., emergency maintence, etc).

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  • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Friday June 09 2017, @01:34PM

    by zocalo (302) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:34PM (#523044)
    Agreed. You can just ignore the Politics nexus if you are not interested in discussions on the topic, but lumping three issues with only a single tenuous connection between the latter two, and which are each quite likely to produce a lively debate, into a single thread is likely to just result in a mess. That serves no one, especially since lack of story submissions is still an issue from time to time.
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Friday June 09 2017, @01:44PM (2 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Friday June 09 2017, @01:44PM (#523055) Journal

    - 3 political articles in a row: ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE... too much politics! This is a tech site!!!

    - 3 political articles in one: ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE... too much politics in one article! Should be 3 separate articles!!!

    - No political articles at all: ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE... don't you know that significant things are happening outside the tech world? There should be articles!!!

    - Political articles not marked as BREAKING NEWS and released non-immediately: ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE... this should have been marked BREAKING NEWS and released IMMEDIATELY!!!

    I say we stop writing and publishing articles at all and just let all the past work and effort and money paid be for nothing.

    Or, should i say:

    "Hookers and blow, hookers and blow: i just want hookers and blow!"

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @04:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @04:21PM (#523137)

      Or, should i say:

      "Hookers and blow, hookers and blow: i just want hookers and blow!"

      Well, it would be more honest. At least that is what I came here for. As always, though, YMMV.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday June 09 2017, @10:18PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Friday June 09 2017, @10:18PM (#523307)

      > "Hookers and blow, hookers and blow: i just want hookers and blow!"

      I only have Blackjack and Chocolate. Go Fish!

  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday June 09 2017, @02:35PM (1 child)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday June 09 2017, @02:35PM (#523079) Journal

    Are you for example going to lump technical things into another thread too? Heck, all we need is one thread that lumps everything together, journals included...

    It might make sense to lump the two Trump stories together but lumping US & UK politics just means the UK stuff probably won't be discussed.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @11:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2017, @11:18PM (#523318)

      I say we have one long megathread for all stories and every post can have infinite moderation. The discussion never ends and of course only the BEST will rise to the top!