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posted by martyb on Monday June 12 2017, @06:03AM   Printer-friendly

From Reuters:

A Pakistani counter-terrorism court has sentenced to death a man who allegedly committed blasphemy on Facebook, a government prosecutor said on Sunday, the first time someone has been handed the death penalty for blaspheming on social media.

[...] Shafiq Qureshi, public prosecutor in Bahawalpur, about 500km (300 miles) south of provincial capital Lahore, said Raza was convicted for allegedly making derogatory remarks against Prophet Mohammad, his wives and companions.

"An anti terrorism court of Bahawalpur has awarded him the death sentence," Qureshi told Reuters." It is the first ever death sentence in a case that involves social media."


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 12 2017, @12:21PM (5 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 12 2017, @12:21PM (#524314) Journal

    I'll give you this: The common understanding of authoritarianism, the common definition, is pretty much incompatible with democracy.

    Let's consider leadership training, where authoritarianism is presented as one of several styles of leadership. Any decent leadership course warns against relying on authority as your primary style of leadership. But, all decent leadership courses include it as a legitimate form of leadership, to be drawn on, and used, when circumstances warrant.

    A pure authoritarian fails in many ways, but anyone who uses a pure form of any other style is likely to fail just as spectacularly. A leader should learn all styles, and use each of them, when appropriate.

    If your house is on fire, do you really expect the fire truck to arrive, and the fire fighting team to cast votes to see if they are going to fight this particular fire? Or, do you expect the team leader to take charge, and to tell his team where and how to attack the fire? THAT is authoritarian leadership in action. Police and the military rely on it extensively, businessmen should use it more sparingly. High school and college coaches should rely on the coaching style of leadership more than anything else, but they should also be able to fall back on authoritariansim now and then.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday June 12 2017, @12:39PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 12 2017, @12:39PM (#524332) Journal

    If your house is on fire, do you really expect the fire truck to arrive, and the fire fighting team to cast votes to see if they are going to fight this particular fire? Or, do you expect the team leader to take charge, and to tell his team where and how to attack the fire? THAT is authoritarian leadership in action.

    Disagree.
    That is authority in action, and I hope the authority is derived from vast experience, the ability to maintain a cool head in front of a fire and the skills to use that head fast. I won't refuse a good physical condition as well.

    Yes, that authority requires compliance from the team, but not unreserved compliance; i.e. I do expect that the rest of the team have enough experience as well to not rely solely on the authority of their leader in dealing with problems they notice (like communicating "I'm not going to get to the second floor, send someone else. I just noticed a scared kid hiding under the bed at the first floor, he's suffocating")
     

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @03:42PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @03:42PM (#524447)

    Come on, mate!
    Admit you made a confusion between:...authority... authoritarianism

    I'll give you this: The common understanding of authoritarianism, the common definition, is pretty much incompatible with democracy.

    So my summary as an AC reading through the thread...

    No you won't admit it
    But yes you were wrong!

    Next up, we'll discussion the definition of troll.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 12 2017, @04:51PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 12 2017, @04:51PM (#524492) Journal

      Yes, you can be a troll. I've explained that the term is commonly used in texts used to teach leadership. And, the term isn't exactly what the common man believes it to mean. That "unthinking" and "mindless" bit is bullshit.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 13 2017, @05:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 13 2017, @05:06PM (#525014)

        Then it isn't authoritarian. The whole premise is that people obey without question. People still think about their orders, and sometimes violate them, but make no mistake those people run the risk of prison or execution.

        The only real world scenario where your statement makes sense is a conversation like this:

        "Good morning Sir, we analyzed your plans and the A.I. reports that it will likely lead to greater unrest and a 7% chance of armed rebellion. Maybe we should re-think the approach to Glorious Day."
        "The statue will be finished on time Commander."
        "I assure you Lord my men are working as fast as they can."
        "The emperor does not share your optimism, perhaps you can explain it to him."
        "The emperor is coming here?? We shall redouble our efforts!"

        If you disagree with the orders your only option is rebellion. Assassinate the emperor/king/tyrant, or organize a full military coup. Only India has been able to pull off the pacifist strategy, and that is because they were ruled by a society that considered itself highly civilized. Once the brutality was made evident the British couldn't maintain public support.

        I bet your mindset is due to your time in the military where you must obey authority yet there is a squeaky little door which allows some free thinking through. In practice this is almost always punished, rarely does the military (if ever??) celebrate someone who disobeyed orders. They need to maintain the "chain of command" which is really just authoritarian methods to make managing thousands of troops easier. I do understand why it is necessary for military purposes, success depends on reliable execution of orders. However, general society should be more flexible and not depend on some jagweed's ego.

        This thread is perhaps the best example of your personal cognitive dissonance. You supposedly support freedom and lots of good things, but then you have weird little side tracks in your mind where the train stops to drop off all the cute fuzzy animals for slaughter. Hence why you get some users constantly calling you lots of bad names. Hell, you got partway there with this thread, you sort of admitted you were wrong but not really. Try and accelerate your learning, actively fight your own ego which is throwing up walls of bullshit.

        I suggest you listen to people who get really pissed at you and try to reassess your standpoint without the backdrop of "they're just whiny little SJWs" which rallies your emotional anger and stops your critical thinking.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @04:58PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @04:58PM (#524496)

    Go ahead, little runaway! Dig that hole deeper! Keep digging! You need to make it deeper!