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posted by martyb on Monday June 12 2017, @06:03AM   Printer-friendly

From Reuters:

A Pakistani counter-terrorism court has sentenced to death a man who allegedly committed blasphemy on Facebook, a government prosecutor said on Sunday, the first time someone has been handed the death penalty for blaspheming on social media.

[...] Shafiq Qureshi, public prosecutor in Bahawalpur, about 500km (300 miles) south of provincial capital Lahore, said Raza was convicted for allegedly making derogatory remarks against Prophet Mohammad, his wives and companions.

"An anti terrorism court of Bahawalpur has awarded him the death sentence," Qureshi told Reuters." It is the first ever death sentence in a case that involves social media."


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Wootery on Monday June 12 2017, @02:18PM (4 children)

    by Wootery (2341) on Monday June 12 2017, @02:18PM (#524409)

    Not even close.

    The west feels great shame in killing civilians. It's really bad press when it turns out your air force wiped out a hospital in the middle east. You think western militaries like it when that stuff hits the press? Do proud Generals speak to journalists about the glory of what happened?

    Meanwhile, ISIS saw off hostages' heads, and this is their recruitment material. They don't feel shame over it, as the US does over the My Lai Massacre, or as China does over the Tiananmen Square killings. ISIS use it to prove how great they are to potential newcomers!

    West is much worse in human rights abuses than any of the muslim world.

    In Saudi Arabia, the punishment for leaving Islam is to have your head chopped off with a ritual sword. And yes, they actually do it.

    They don't even have the decency to feel ashamed of this practice.

    So no, as much as you may enjoy hating the west, it's not even close to true.

    if they resist, bomb them into oblivion and murder millions of civilians, destroy their entire countries, send them back 40 years

    If the West really wanted to kill every man, woman and child in Libya, it probably could. And yet we don't. How about that, huh?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @04:04PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @04:04PM (#524459)

    Let us count the number of dead caused by ISIS (a wing of Israel, USA and their allies): Mostly advertisement material made with the deaths an unlucky few.

    The number of dead caused by western sanctions against Saddam's Iraq: Millions dead

    The number of dead in current M.E crisis: Hundreds of thousands dead, many homeless, lives destroyed

    When Saudi Arabia (a USA ally) does a chopping off of head with a ritual sword, it is in their law, and the people know it, although there is no excuse for this practice.

    When USA bombs children to save them, no one gets away from the bombs. Sure, the Generals cannot make a pyramid of the corpses and pose for photos in front, but the dead are still dead

    It takes a really sick mind to say

    If the West really wanted to kill every man, woman and child in Libya, it probably could. And yet we don't. How about that, huh?

    You are fucked in the head. Totally. You have proven by your actions to not be part of the civilized world.

    • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Tuesday June 13 2017, @08:47AM

      by Wootery (2341) on Tuesday June 13 2017, @08:47AM (#524833)

      a wing of Israel, USA and their allies

      Saudi, sure. Saying it's a direct wing of the USA and Israel is rather absurd. The USA doesn't directly supply ISIS fighters, it directly kills ISIS fighters.

      The number of dead caused by western sanctions against Saddam's Iraq: Millions dead

      You seem to be lying about the numbers. The Iraq War kill-count is north of 100,000, yes, but it's not millions.

      the dead are still dead

      A high death count is always tragic, of course, but intent is central to questions of morality. You are deliberately ignoring this so that you get to hate on the west as much as possible.

      Killing a certain number of people in the name of, say, ethnic cleansing, is not the moral equivalent of killing a certain number of people in the process of ousting their tyrannical dictator.

      The Iraq war remains a total disaster, but was waged out of serious mistakes rather than evil intent.

      You are fucked in the head. Totally. You have proven by your actions to not be part of the civilized world.

      You are either being obtuse, or you're genuinely unable to comprehend my point. I'll try to spell it out for you.

      The question of who's really the bad guy often boils down to what would they do if they could do whatever they wanted?

      If ISIS could do whatever they wanted, they'd subject the entire world to their horrendous strain of Islamist rule. They'd kill every jew on the planet. They'd kill every gay on the planet. What's stopping them? They can't do it. They don't have the power.

      The USA does have the power. Israel does have the power.

      So, again: if the West really wanted to kill every man, woman and child in Libya, it could. If Israel wanted to kill every man, woman, and child in Palestine, it could. And yet they don't. Why? Because the west isn't actually full of evil intentions, as much as you enjoy hating it (under the very protections it provides, no less).

      We can analyse the Axis and Allied sides of WW2 in much the same way. How did the Allies behave after their victory? They nurtured Germany back into an economic superpower. I don't need to spell out how the Nazis would have behaved if they'd won. This difference is central to the moral question of killing: it vindicates the legitimate warfighting of the Allies, and damns the Axis. (Not to say there weren't war crimes on both sides, of course.)

  • (Score: 2) by https on Tuesday June 13 2017, @02:38PM (1 child)

    by https (5248) on Tuesday June 13 2017, @02:38PM (#524931) Journal

    They're not special. The only thing western militaries don't like about it is the "hitting the press" part.

    'll believe shame is felt if the killing stops. Not holding my breath, since blue is not my colour.

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    Offended and laughing about it.
    • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Tuesday June 13 2017, @02:55PM

      by Wootery (2341) on Tuesday June 13 2017, @02:55PM (#524939)

      'll believe shame is felt if the killing stops.

      Are you one of those people who thinks all military intervention is wrong by definition?

      It's not possible to fight a war with zero civilian casualties.