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posted by martyb on Monday June 12 2017, @06:03AM   Printer-friendly

From Reuters:

A Pakistani counter-terrorism court has sentenced to death a man who allegedly committed blasphemy on Facebook, a government prosecutor said on Sunday, the first time someone has been handed the death penalty for blaspheming on social media.

[...] Shafiq Qureshi, public prosecutor in Bahawalpur, about 500km (300 miles) south of provincial capital Lahore, said Raza was convicted for allegedly making derogatory remarks against Prophet Mohammad, his wives and companions.

"An anti terrorism court of Bahawalpur has awarded him the death sentence," Qureshi told Reuters." It is the first ever death sentence in a case that involves social media."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @05:12PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @05:12PM (#524507)

    I don't know, this test places me further left than the Green party, which I generally despise for being extremist dumb-ass impractical SJW pinko fairy brethren. I don't get along with lefty types at all.

    Some of the questions didn't have any answer that I wanted. There was not an option for "ambivalent", or "it depends", or "I'm not homosexual, how the fuck would/could I know what they feel?".

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 12 2017, @05:36PM (5 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 12 2017, @05:36PM (#524518) Journal

    I take it then, that you are probably an American. Europeans are very comfortable taking this and similar tests. They understand the political spectrum better than we do. I suppose that is because Europeans have so many different political systems on that one continent. People travel, and they are exposed to all sorts of different political views. Here in the US, few citizens even realize that Louisiana is rather unique, in that their judicial system goes back to Napoleanic Law, somewhat like Mexico's does.

    The first time I took one of these tests, I had the same reaction. "Hell no! I'm not commie!"

    I don't understand that shit well enough to try to explain it all. But, the test does help to explain why I don't fit into either of America's main political camps. Keep in mind that Europeans often tell us that we don't have a left and a right party. What we have are right and further right. And, we're so fucked up, we don't even know how extreme we are!

    Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex. I really think they have poisoned our political system so that there is no room for a left. Hell, there isn't even room for centrist or moderate views.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @06:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @06:12PM (#524554)

      YOU don't realize how fucked up we are, and your fellow mid westerners as a whole.

      There are quite a few cities with massive cultural mixing, but ironically we're demonized as elitist ivory tower communists/socialists. I've lost a lot of the patience I had for close minded people once I realized how they view me. I'm an oddball loony who is entertaining in their mind, and more often than not they try and convert me to their way of thinking.

      PS: the close minded / crazies are on the left and right, but overwhelmingly on the conservative spectrum. For all the new age crystal healers you get twice the number of faith healers. Christian fundamentalism, one of the big industries of the US...

    • (Score: 1) by purple_cobra on Monday June 12 2017, @06:16PM

      by purple_cobra (1435) on Monday June 12 2017, @06:16PM (#524557)

      Keep in mind that Europeans often tell us that we don't have a left and a right party. What we have are right and further right.

      As a reader from the UK, I'd agree with that being the perception of pretty much everyone I've ever spoken to. Here, the Conservatives have been trying - and succeeding - in pulling the political focus to the right for years now, latterly as they try to take votes from UKIP; witness the painting of current Labour policies as "loony left", despite being pretty mainstream social democratic-type policies for somewhere like Sweden. Margaret Thatcher supposedly said that she considered (Tony Blair's) New Labour her greatest triumph and they were notably more rightward leaning[1] than Labour were in the days of Kinnock, etc. May and many others in the Conservatives seem to wish to emulate the Republican party; Thursday's result means rather more people than she'd suspected don't agree and would prefer otherwise.

      [1] The original line included "rightward bent" but I changed that as it just brings Mandelson to mind.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 13 2017, @11:44PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 13 2017, @11:44PM (#525162) Journal

      They understand the political spectrum better than we do.

      Sorry, I don't buy that. Instead, I think they are merely elsewhere. If Europeans understood the political spectrum so well, then why do they have so much trouble dealing with both their far right and immigrant viewpoints?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday June 14 2017, @12:17AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 14 2017, @12:17AM (#525173) Journal

        Because they are fucking liberal, of course. Or, progressive. Euros, or western Euros, have bought into that whole thing about man "evolving". Let's be clear - only liberal, left, or progressive people view the "immigrant" thing as an immigrant thing at all. Europe is suffering under an invasion from Islam. That is why Euros have problems with the "immigrant viewpoint" - they aren't immigrants.

        Despite your, or my, or any other American's problems grasping the political spectrum, that spectrum represents political reality far better than our own poor understanding of left/right/moderate. I won't try to convince you that it's perfect, nor will I try to convince you that it is accurate. But, it is orders of magnitude more accurate, and more informative, than our left/right scale. Of course, it is a given that any polished turd would be better than our own unpolished two party system.

        There isn't anything in the constitution alluding to a "two party system", is there? Funny how we've adopted that nonsense as though it were law, written in stone. I remember learning in Civics class that the two party system was the best thing since sliced bread. But, I do NOT recall anything in the constitution about two parties. Instead, the two corrupt parties have written a myriad of campaign and funding rules that favor the two corrupt parties, and effectively barring any third parties from becoming serious contenders.

        To summarize, the D's and R's actively work to keep us confused, so it's no surprise that our understanding of politics is fucked up.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday June 14 2017, @03:50AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 14 2017, @03:50AM (#525250) Journal

          Despite your, or my, or any other American's problems grasping the political spectrum, that spectrum represents political reality far better than our own poor understanding of left/right/moderate.

          What spectrum? Again, I don't buy that Europeans have any better understanding than anyone else. I think what is missed here is that in living memory, a huge portion of the European political spectrum nuked itself by cooperating with Nazis and other fascists during the Second World War. And use of the word "nuke" is appropriate here. You couldn't have more effectively gotten rid of them by gathering them all in one place and setting off a nuclear bomb. I'm not saying the resulting completely repudiation for most of a century wasn't deserved, but this does warp public perception of politics as a result.

          The US didn't have that degree of repudiation and hence, has a stronger political representation and understanding of far right and similar beliefs/issues. Similarly, the US's higher long term immigration rate has resulted in a better understanding of immigrant beliefs and issues as well. Hence, my point in bringing these two groups up.

          As to the two party system, that's a natural artifact of the first-past-the-post voting system the US created in the first place. There's never been a time when two parties didn't dominate the system. It's baked into the Constitution, just not explicitly or (IMHO) intentionally.