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The Lubuntu 17.04 Desktop/Live CD(ISO) is missing the package: net-tools[1]
It's troubling to find a LiveCD today that does not have something as simple as netstat and other important tools available.
It's also quite pathetic to discover the recent Debian LiveCDs are missing UFW[2].
[1] "This package includes the important tools for controlling the network subsystem of the Linux kernel. This includes arp, ifconfig, netstat, rarp, nameif and route."
[2] "The Uncomplicated FireWall is a front-end for iptables, to make managing a Netfilter firewall easier. It provides a command line interface with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter. It is particularly well-suited as a host-based firewall."
[Ed note: Assuming one has an internet connection, can't one just do something along the lines of apt-get $package_name to fill in what is missing? Is this just whining on the part of the submitter or an actual shortcoming? What are your thoughts on this?]
(Score: 3, Informative) by Bot on Monday June 12 2017, @12:55PM (6 children)
I liked debian live, especially the web image builder.
But, after switching to systemd-less antix and systemd-limited mxlinux I found myself at ease with their live iso and frugal install scripts.
Give them a try. They are deb based.
For a pretty complete systemd less live cd, there is knoppix.
I am looking forward to try devuan 1.0, the early beta worked for me, I dunno how live CD are, though.
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday June 12 2017, @01:14PM (5 children)
Devuan have a LiveCD yet?
(Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Monday June 12 2017, @01:42PM
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/minimal-live/ [devuan.org]
Contains a file
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/minimal-live/devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_minimal-live_list.txt [devuan.org]
Contains a line
net-tools 1.60-26+b1
so I believe this is your lucky day.
I've never used the livecd for devuan so I donno any more about it. I do know that on my last legacy Debian boxes that have not upgraded to FreeBSD the upgrade to Devuan was utterly flawless and boring and everything "just worked".
(Score: 3, Informative) by butthurt on Monday June 12 2017, @01:59PM (3 children)
I haven't tried it, but it has a "minimal-live" image that will fit on a CD and a "desktop-live" one that will fit on a DVD. From the README.txt files:
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday June 12 2017, @02:19PM (2 children)
Btw, Have you had any experience on (server) BIOS that didn't want to boot USB and how you got around it? or not?
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday June 12 2017, @03:21PM (1 child)
In the 90s we booted off floppies, but hardware with floppy today is probably rare.
I used some Soekris non-USB semi-embedded boxes where PXE network booting was the normal installation method. PXE is (or used to be) kinda weird to set up, but once it worked it was mostly reliable for installs.
Also windows boxes don't tolerate hard drive swapping but in the old days I once installed a machine with no working linux cdrom driver by moving its hard drive to a system where a working cdrom driver existed then installing off cdrom then swapping the hard drives back, worked fine. In retrospect I could have swapped the cdrom instead. In the very oldest days of cdroms before they were universally on the IDE bus, there were weird interfaces that were not IDE compatible. Things were weird in the early 90s.
(Score: 2) by nethead on Monday June 12 2017, @10:12PM
I had a stack of servers with RAID 1 I needed to install BSD on. I got one setup just the way I wanted, pulled the second drive and put it in the next box as the main drive and let it mirror. Repeat and rinse. (and re-IP/name)
How did my SN UID end up over 3 times my /. UID?