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posted by martyb on Monday June 12 2017, @11:45AM   Printer-friendly

The Lubuntu 17.04 Desktop/Live CD(ISO) is missing the package: net-tools[1]

It's troubling to find a LiveCD today that does not have something as simple as netstat and other important tools available.

It's also quite pathetic to discover the recent Debian LiveCDs are missing UFW[2].

[1] "This package includes the important tools for controlling the network subsystem of the Linux kernel. This includes arp, ifconfig, netstat, rarp, nameif and route."

[2] "The Uncomplicated FireWall is a front-end for iptables, to make managing a Netfilter firewall easier. It provides a command line interface with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter. It is particularly well-suited as a host-based firewall."

[Ed note: Assuming one has an internet connection, can't one just do something along the lines of apt-get $package_name to fill in what is missing? Is this just whining on the part of the submitter or an actual shortcoming? What are your thoughts on this?]


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @05:21PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @05:21PM (#524510)

    Ok, stupid question. I've used ifconfig for ages, and I still type that out of habit. However, I've been getting use to the ip suite (ip addr and ip route in particular) since it has more capabilities. IPv6 with ifconfig can get a little hairy. Does it indeed not have ip either?

    I hate systemd as much as the next person here. New is not always better, new is often not better these days, but sometimes new is better imho.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @10:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 12 2017, @10:25PM (#524691)

    recent upgrade informed me that ifupdown was going to stop paying attention to /etc/default because systemd doesn't like it. Oddly /etc/default is the place to put settings to bypass systemd and netnames and other freedesktop crap. Probably just a coincidence. Just remember it's perfectly easy to run debian without systemd.