Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

SoylentNews is powered by your submissions, so send in your scoop. Only 17 submissions in the queue.
posted by martyb on Monday June 12 2017, @11:45AM   Printer-friendly

The Lubuntu 17.04 Desktop/Live CD(ISO) is missing the package: net-tools[1]

It's troubling to find a LiveCD today that does not have something as simple as netstat and other important tools available.

It's also quite pathetic to discover the recent Debian LiveCDs are missing UFW[2].

[1] "This package includes the important tools for controlling the network subsystem of the Linux kernel. This includes arp, ifconfig, netstat, rarp, nameif and route."

[2] "The Uncomplicated FireWall is a front-end for iptables, to make managing a Netfilter firewall easier. It provides a command line interface with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter. It is particularly well-suited as a host-based firewall."

[Ed note: Assuming one has an internet connection, can't one just do something along the lines of apt-get $package_name to fill in what is missing? Is this just whining on the part of the submitter or an actual shortcoming? What are your thoughts on this?]


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Marand on Tuesday June 13 2017, @01:25AM

    by Marand (1081) on Tuesday June 13 2017, @01:25AM (#524751) Journal

    Not including ifconfig is a pretty brain dead move.

    No, it's not, and you don't know what you're talking about. net-tools is obsolete [lwn.net] and has been considered so for a very long time [debian.org] because they had been unmaintained for years. As a result, everything has been moving to iproute2 [debian.org], with even the Linux Foundation page on net-tools [linuxfoundation.org] telling you to stop using it and switch, with a handy list of command equivalents.

    Also, according to that lwn.net link, someone did fork net-tools and resume development after fifteen years of neglect, but then decided to make random changes to the tools' output, breaking any scripts relying on it. I guess Debian decided that since it can't trust the output, it's time to finally make the switch to iproute2 fully for its internal use.

    You, TheGratefulNet, and the AC submitter have just failed to keep up despite iproute2 being over a decade old [kernel.org], and are now bitching that your obsolete tools aren't provided by default any more.

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Moderation   +3  
       Troll=1, Informative=3, Underrated=1, Total=5
    Extra 'Informative' Modifier   0  
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   5