Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

SoylentNews is powered by your submissions, so send in your scoop. Only 16 submissions in the queue.
posted by cmn32480 on Thursday June 15 2017, @08:29AM   Printer-friendly
from the special-agent-thomas-blunt dept.

The Secret Service will be relaxing the rules for marijuana users to an extent in the hopes that it will increase their pool of candidates. It's becoming impossible for the agency to track down people who have not used due to the wide acceptance and acknowledged medical benefits for things like addiction, stress and depression.

Meanwhile, Jeff Sessions is looking to crack down on medical providers. Citing things such as: psychosis, respiratory issues, IQ loss and that it has no accepted medical use in the united states.

[Credit for the secret service article and scribd source to takyon]


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:14PM (14 children)

    by looorg (578) on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:14PM (#525987)

    ... the Secret Service, whose only two jobs are to provide security for the president and his family and investigate financial crimes

    It probably isn't doing miracles if you investigate fraud but it makes some kinda sense that you have to be stoned out of your mind if you are willing to take a bullet for someone else.

    ... applicants younger than 24 are only required to show they haven’t used marijuana for a period of 12-months. Other candidates, 28-years or older, are expected to be pot-free for at least five years.

    Duuude why so harsh. What is it that happens between 24 and 28 that increases the period from a year to five years? That said can they even detect it after five years?

    Also this seems to be the same issue that the FBI and other agencies are suffering from. They just can't attract enough young bodies to fill all the positions and they seem to come to the conclusion that it's all down to the weed.

    https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/06/13/1253216 [soylentnews.org]

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   2  
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:21PM (#525990)

    Temporal proximity of applicant to college campus life.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:41PM (9 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:41PM (#526001) Journal

    What is it that happens between 24 and 28 that increases the period from a year to five years?

    Expected to have started a family and have a mortgage to pay?
    I.e. act sufficiently responsible to be controllable?

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:21PM

      by looorg (578) on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:21PM (#526015)

      Expected to have started a family and have a mortgage to pay? I.e. act sufficiently responsible to be controllable?

      That is almost as deficient thinking on their part then as the "drugs is bad". If they now think that it's only young people that smoke and that responsible adults don't engage in that kinda behavior. Also considering that the average age of motherhood just keeps going up, people are taking longer and longer to get a degree (or two) and start working and/or starting their family this might just be more wishful thinking then on their part.

      The stats for age and marijuana-usage seem to be about the same when looking at different sources, but it seems that this "college-only" thing is not true. While the 18-29 year old seem to make up the largest single group there seems to be as many smokers in the 30-64 year group (yes that is two groups added together). Gallup gives some general overall data, Headset gives data for dispensaries -- but here we have that the general customer in the 25-29 group is the single largest but the group of 30-39 would be even larger, or that 21-29 years of age is just a large (or about) a group as 30-44 year old. The overall average seems to be 37, but then average here might be a really shit indicator, the mode or median might have been better or at least interesting to see.

      I had to look it up but it appears they don't hire anybody above the age of 37 for the "action" positions at the Secret Service (40 for military veterans), the other more clerical positions doesn't have any upper age requirement.

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/194195/adults-say-smoke-marijuana.aspx [gallup.com]

      http://headset.io/blog/what-does-the-average-cannabis-consumer-look-like [headset.io]

      https://www.secretservice.gov/join/careers/ [secretservice.gov]

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:45PM (7 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:45PM (#526034) Journal

      The amusing thing about that is, from everything I hear, kids in their twenties, for the most part, can't afford to start a family and a mortgage.

      The government that expects this, doesn't make it possible for most people to have it. So it would mean that they would recruit increasingly from those more well off who can afford a family / mortgage. But the more affluent those people are, the less they may want this particular job.

      --
      To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:12PM (6 children)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:12PM (#526047)

        The government that expects this, doesn't make it possible for most people to have it. So it would mean that they would recruit increasingly from those more well off who can afford a family / mortgage. But the more affluent those people are, the less they may want this particular job.

        There's another factor here: for the Presidential detail at least, the Secret Service would require you to live in the DC area, for obvious reasons. DC is a very, very expensive part of the country. I wonder how much they pay these guys (and girls--I've seen a few female SS agents at the White House grounds).

        • (Score: 2) by KGIII on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:20PM (4 children)

          by KGIII (5261) on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:20PM (#526077) Journal

          Starts between 45,000 and 75,000 and then some additional bonuses, up to about 25%. That will vary by location and specific detail.

          --
          "So long and thanks for all the fish."
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @06:20PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @06:20PM (#526121)

            Gaaahd, starting $75k would seem more in line with a job with incredibly strict requirements, dire consequences, and your life on the line. I don't discount police putting their lives on the line, but SS is supposed to be the top tier "police force" in the US. $45k? That just seems insulting. But hey, we pull the same shit on teachers and they are responsible for the future of our society soooo yaaaa. Our priorities are totally fine, yup, this is all fine /s.

            • (Score: 2) by KGIII on Thursday June 15 2017, @08:00PM

              by KGIII (5261) on Thursday June 15 2017, @08:00PM (#526182) Journal

              You may not want to look up how much we pay our infantry members.

              --
              "So long and thanks for all the fish."
          • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday June 15 2017, @06:52PM (1 child)

            by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday June 15 2017, @06:52PM (#526142)

            $45k? Good luck even renting your own apartment for that much in the DC area within reasonable distance to a Metro station (for commuting into downtown DC for your job protecting the president). So the most elite police in the country, protecting the highest office in the land, have to resort to living in the crappy part of town with roommates? No wonder they're having recruitment problems.

            • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by KGIII on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:49PM

              by KGIII (5261) on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:49PM (#526170) Journal

              I wish them luck. ;-)

              I'm too old and too happy being retired. They do get some additional funds to cover COL with regards to their locality. The numbers given are base pay. They go up from there. I didn't dig deep enough to find out more - but all salary information is publicly available.

              --
              "So long and thanks for all the fish."
        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday June 15 2017, @09:23PM

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday June 15 2017, @09:23PM (#526212) Homepage Journal
          The SS is great, but Kerry O'Grady is a disaster for America. She said my candidacy was a disaster for America. She violated the Hatch Act, like no violation you've seen in your life (I call it treason). Now I'm President and now, she's fired! #WINNING [twitter.com]
  • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:19PM

    by Whoever (4524) on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:19PM (#526055) Journal

    Duuude why so harsh. What is it that happens between 24 and 28 that increases the period from a year to five years? That said can they even detect it after five years?

    Since the administration's policy on drugs is almost entirely fact-free why would you expect rational rules on Secret Service hiring?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:46PM (#526082)

    That said can they even detect it after five years?

    They don't have to detect it. They ask you and people around you, as a part of the whole background check thing. And lying to federal agents is a federal crime, so you'd be taking a really big risk if you lied about it.

    If you did smoke some weed recently and still want to enter the service, it was probably a good idea to wait a few years to put the smoking outside of the time limit.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by KGIII on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:53PM

    by KGIII (5261) on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:53PM (#526089) Journal

    Just an observation.

    12 months = 1 year.
    24 - 1 = 23
    28 - 5 = 23

    I have absolutely no clue what is significant about 23.

    It's a government policy on drug use. I'm pretty sure there's not a whole lot of rationality involved. Call it a hunch.

    *smokes the rest of the joint*

    --
    "So long and thanks for all the fish."