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posted by martyb on Saturday June 17 2017, @02:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the say-something-often-enough? dept.

The guy who claims he invented E-Mail is slowly rewriting history one lawsuit at a time. The wannabe politician, whom many would call a charlatan, using the money from the Gawker case has turned his sights on Techdirt in an effort to squelch historical facts about the origins of e-mail. While this SLAPP suit may look for now on the surface like it is aimed at a single site, Techdirt, regarding a single topic, e-mail, the long term goal might be to take all journalism down a notch or two.

The five-page story on Ars Technica is a deep dive into the history — RFCs, major programs, interviews, etc. They even had an interview with Shiva Ayyadurai. Here's an extract from the intro:

Ayyadurai did write a program called "EMAIL" for use by the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (now a part of Rutgers). He copyrighted the code in 1982. But Ayyadurai today makes the far more significant claim that he invented "the electronic mail system as we know it today," even though his code had little impact beyond the university. Mainstream tech history books don't even mention Ayyadurai—unless you count the several books Ayyadurai has written about himself.

On the ARPAnet, the predecessor to the Internet, electronic mail conventions were well-established by the mid-1970s. Dave Crocker, one of a group of ARPAnet pioneers despised by Ayyadurai, told Ars that he wasn't just using e-mail by 1974—he was positively addicted to it, a full three decades before the smartphone.

And another snippet, from their interview with Ayyadurai:

As we persisted in asking what was somehow un-e-mail-like about older 1970s technologies, like the Xerox Alto—Ayyadurai grew more agitated.

"Let's stop right there," he said. "Let's stop. They didn't call it 'e-mail.' You see, you guys want to separate the term. That's wrong, okay? That's wrong. This is what's been going on, Joe, for four fucking years.

"According to Wikipedia, e-mail is the exchange of digital messages," he continued. "Right? Is that a right definition? It is a fucking wrong definition! E-mail is not the exchange of digital messages. That would make Facebook e-mail, it would make every fucking thing e-mail! If you want to talk to the expert—which is me—there are three types of messaging. There's short messaging, which goes back all the way to the smoke signal. Okay? There's community messaging, and there's formal messaging."

So if someone was sending a text document electronically, we asked, from one person to another, on a networked computer—why didn't that count as e-mail?

"Did they call it 'e-mail'?" he said. "No. I defined e-mail! And you guys have got to give me that credit."

Vint Cerf, who is a co-inventor of the TCP/IP protocol that underpins the Internet itself, told us there's "no evidence that Ayyadurai's work had any impact on the development of electronic messages that stem from early ARPAnet work." We asked Ayyadurai about this quote.

"What does Vint Cerf know?" demanded Ayyadurai. "I know Vint Cerf. They created their Internet Hall of Fame seven days after I went in the Smithsonian. Are you aware of that? These guys want to re-write their history."

Seriously, as much as it goes against tradition here, the entire article is well-worth reading. Are there any graybeards and/or former mail admins or even long ago users who wish to chime in with their experiences with e-mail in the pre/post August 1982 time frame?


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @06:22PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @06:22PM (#527078)

    What else did you expect from an Indian? Hell, their entire country's tech sector is built on fraudulent degrees and certifications. Go on stack exchange or any tech blog and you will find an Indian asking the fucking dumbest questions imaginable. If you have a mildly interesting tech bog post about some electronic gizmo or a programming trick, I guarantee you you will find one or more Indian posts in the comments along the lines of "Please informing me how to build nuclear reactor control software." They don't even try to mask their incompetence or ignorance. They just walk in claiming they know how to do X and then google like mad on how to implement X and wing it.

    Ever work with an Indian? Awful. They have this strange hubris which makes them very defensive at any notion they might be wrong. When confronted with glaring mistakes they made, they sit there confidently smiling at you while stating that you are wrong, not them. Infuriating. And don't get me started on their extreme lack of hygiene. No Mr Apu, perfume isn't a socially acceptable replacement for a proper shower and use of deodorant. Nothing more nasty then walking into their office which reeks of BO, ass and curry. Then they use oil instead of hair styling products which leaves big greasy oily stains everywhere. Though, god help you if you bring these complaints to management. Those slimy fucks cry RACISM and then you have to live with a black spot or worse, terminated. Fuck them. Fucking white man wanna be phony's.

    On the plus side, the only tolerable Indians are the ones who are born here. They turn out okay with better hygiene.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @07:02PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @07:02PM (#527097)

    So whenever there's an Indian showing up at your job. It's time to search for a new job? or maybe ask the boss to make sure you will have no interaction with any Indian as condition for you not accepting job elsewhere?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @08:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @08:34PM (#527139)

      9/10 times, it is a sign to brush up on your resume and start looking for other opportunities. Because in most places it means you are soon to be outsourced. If you can't make yourself 'invaluable' to the company within a year or two (or sometimes less!), don't be surprised when all your fellow employees start looking a bit browner.