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posted by mrpg on Friday June 23 2017, @01:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the you-mean-the-whole-continent?!?! dept.

America leads the world when it comes to access to higher education. But when it comes to health, environmental protection, and fighting discrimination, it trails many other developed countries, according to the Social Progress Imperative, a U.S.-based nonprofit.

The results of the group's annual survey, which ranks nations based on 50 metrics, call to mind other reviews of national well-being, such as the World Happiness Report released in March, which was led by Norway, Denmark, and Iceland, or September's Lancet study on sustainable development. In that one, Iceland, Singapore, Sweden, and the U.S. took spots 1, 2, 3, and 28—respectively. 

The Social Progress Index released this week is compiled from social and environmental data that come as close as possible to revealing how people live. "We want to measure a country's health and wellness achieved, not how much effort is expended, nor how much the country spends on healthcare," the report states. Scandinavia walked away with the top four of 128 slots. Denmark scored the highest. America came in at 18. 

The Social Progress Index gives the US poor marks. America may, however, still lead the world in funny cat videos.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:34AM (39 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:34AM (#529748)

    which was led by Norway, Denmark, and Iceland, or September's Lancet study on sustainable development. In that one, Iceland, Singapore, Sweden,

      * Norway, Denmark and Sweden have a largely homogeneous population
      * Iceland, really have a homogeneous population
      * Singapore have a strict policy regarding who they will let in, the results are not so surprising

    As for America:
      # Access to higher education - If you can pay!
      # Health - If you can pay!
      # Environmental protection - If you can pay.. to move where there is no pollution. America certainly could tackle this better though. As the number of places to go decreases with time.

    So it mostly boils down to economic power.

    Discrimination is a consequence of group, not individual traits. It's a simple fact of life that when no other factors than ethnicity or where a person grew up is known. It will statistically be beneficial to choose people according to what previous experiences indicates as the best choice. When you make a investment. If there's more doubt with one choice over another then the choice with the least amount of doubt wins. To act against this a risk compensation that delivers on their promise has to come externally. This goes for employment, housing, partner choice, friends, businesses etc.

  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday June 23 2017, @01:38AM (1 child)

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday June 23 2017, @01:38AM (#529752) Homepage

    Have you had a conversation with Maman Merkel about all those military-aged African men with designer jackets and iPhones?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:19AM (#529771)

      She will not comment on their preparation for entryism and coup d'état..
      Our international lenders want to make loans to overpriced housing outside of ghettos, pampering sheltering and civil war. But don't tell anyone.

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 23 2017, @01:39AM (12 children)

    I'll let others tell me who I should date and be friends with based on skin color when lesbians agree that I can tell them who to date based on gender.

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @01:47AM (11 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @01:47AM (#529756) Journal

      Feel free to tell us, we just won't listen, since you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Y'ask me, you're probably just annoyed I do better with women than you do :D

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 2, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 23 2017, @10:40AM (10 children)

        Darlin, I'll put my alpha male confidence and sense of humor up against whatever you think you have any day of the week. If my bed's empty, it's empty because I needed a break from putting up with women's shit for a night.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 2, Touché) by ewk on Friday June 23 2017, @02:07PM

          by ewk (5923) on Friday June 23 2017, @02:07PM (#530018)

          "women's shit"

          You're using them wrong... :-)

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:57PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:57PM (#530036)

          You're not an alpha male. You're delusional and not respected by anybody. Part of being an alpha is that you're not so full of shit that nobody takes you seriously.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 23 2017, @05:31PM (1 child)

            Run grab a sociology book. You've no idea what you're talking about.

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            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @06:26PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @06:26PM (#530140)

              Sociology textbook, you do realize that they just made those words up and they aren't real, right?

              You're not an alpha you're an asshole, the two are not the same thing.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @05:59PM (5 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @05:59PM (#530120) Journal

          Oh my God, you actually refer to yourself as "alpha male?" XD You, the fat, lazy jackoff whose idea of a good time is spending 6 hours with a stick in the swamp waiting for something dumber than you to bite it? Uzzard, *stop,* you're gonna make me die of laughter here.

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          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 23 2017, @08:31PM

            Told ya I had a sense of humor...

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            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday June 23 2017, @11:05PM (3 children)

            May I politely request that you stay clear of any body-shaming slurs, lest your carpet-bombing harm innocents?
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            Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @11:12PM (2 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @11:12PM (#530296) Journal

              Sure, you can request it. Even impolitely. Doesn't mean I'm gonna listen, necessarily, but you can ask :)

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              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
              • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday June 23 2017, @11:17PM (1 child)

                Kill'em all, let the lack of $GOD sort them out, eh? ;-)
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                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:04AM

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:04AM (#530324) Journal

                  No, more like "If someone brings a knife to a fistfight, they ought not be surprised when I pull my own out of my bra." I don't believe in going high when my opponent goes low, and if Uzzard went any lower he'd burn his belly on the earth's mantle.

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                  I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Mykl on Friday June 23 2017, @01:49AM (13 children)

    by Mykl (1112) on Friday June 23 2017, @01:49AM (#529757)

    If you want to pick who to live with based on statistics, then you should move to an immigrant neighborhood. As noted on this site many times, immigrants tend to have a lower crime rate overall than the general population.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @01:57AM (4 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @01:57AM (#529762) Journal

      But that doesn't fit his worldview, so you're wrong and also a Communist :v

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      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Friday June 23 2017, @02:44AM (3 children)

        by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 23 2017, @02:44AM (#529778) Journal

        I think you forgot to add #fakenews on the above statements as clearly they do not fit in with a narrative that is being created.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @03:21AM (2 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @03:21AM (#529794) Journal

          Oh, right. Sorry. I have been Insufficiently Jingoistic^W Patriotic and will now self-arrest and turn myself in to the Ministry of Love.

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:02PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:02PM (#530288)

            Jingoism is not a bad thing. The same goes for patriotism and even moderate xenophobia. Failure to establish and defend a culture means you get mowed down by some other culture.

            You can be all "progressive" and everything... and the result of that progress will be a spanish-speaking islamic rape culture with sharia and all the disfunction of a 3rd-world hellhole. Under that, people like you would be tossed off of buildings or forced to become sex slaves.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @11:19PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @11:19PM (#530304) Journal

              There is a difference between jingoism and patriotism. There is a difference between both of those and xenophobia. And it's darkly hilarious how all these ACs who've never met me assume I like Islam or something, when the longer-running members have been yelling at me for being Islamophobic for a while now just for pointing out how completely bass-ackwards Islam is.

              You may want to, as it was said in ancient times, "lurk moar" and learn a few things before you fire off these assumptions of yours.

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              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:12AM (#529765)

      Do you mean the local musliburb where they get their monthly raid for the latest Allahu Akbar!! outside the suburb? which is only interrupted by the weekly drug & robbery arrest and detention.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:13AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:13AM (#529767)

      Which immigrant? Not all immigrants are the same, just like people, some are just better than others.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:19AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:19AM (#529847)

        And how do you know which immigrants that are good or bad when walking down a street or in a crowd? Make a mistake and have a knife deeply embedded into you.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @04:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @04:29PM (#530069)

          Wow, fear much?

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @06:02PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @06:02PM (#530124) Journal

          Jesus. Wish you had said that before I married one.

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        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday June 24 2017, @06:42AM

          by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Saturday June 24 2017, @06:42AM (#530492) Homepage
          Exactly the way you do with non-immigrants, you racist ignoramus.
          --
          Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @02:24AM (#529772)

      Sure, visit the bad neighborhoods in Texas and New Mexico near the border. Perfectly safe! No crime going on there!

    • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Friday June 23 2017, @03:05AM

      by Whoever (4524) on Friday June 23 2017, @03:05AM (#529785) Journal

      You should listen to my neighbors. They are mostly immigrants and freaked out about crime in this very safe neighborhood. Yes, there is the occasional burglary, but not frequent and not violent.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday June 23 2017, @03:11AM (4 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Friday June 23 2017, @03:11AM (#529788)

    So here's the thing: Those that bring up the "ethnically homogenous" argument ignore another country that is similar to the US in a lot of ways. This country has a majority that speaks English, but with a sizeable minority speaking other languages. This country has a majority of white people but substantial racial minorities of many varieties. And they are definitely a modern industrialized country. But unlike the US, there's no "If you can pay" clause for education, health care, and environmental protection.

    That country is Canada, proudly doing all the things American conservatives like to claim can't be done. And their people are better off because they do those things.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:21AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:21AM (#529848)

      It depend on what type of groups that makes up the country.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:03PM (#530290)

        Moving the goal posts. Nice /s

        Statements like this are why I've mostly given up trying to convince conservatives of anything, they are intellectually dishonest.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday June 23 2017, @04:33PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday June 23 2017, @04:33PM (#530071)

      Beauty, eh?

      Kinda like the Scandinavians, if Canada didn't get some social policies right everyone would leave because of the weather.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:58PM (#530322)

      Canada is plagued by FLQ terrorists. Look at what happened to Pierre Laporte. Multiculturalism fail.

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @06:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @06:35AM (#529874)

    Quit making excuses and pitch in fixing the goddamned racist country.

    Singapore

    Not homogeneous. Say bye-bye your racist excuse.

    who they will let in

    ...and they find everybody a job to do.
    ...unlike post-Reagan USA.

    Access to higher education

    Yeah, I noticed that in TFS too.

    In committee, Bernie Sanders was questioning douchebag HHS nominee Tom Price who talked about "access" to heathcare.
    Bernie noted that there is a big difference between "access" and actually being able to afford something. [google.com]

    So, even WRT education, USA comes out stinking when compared to the pre-Reagan days when a summer job could pay for your year's schooling.
    (It was Reagan who screwed the low-cost college thing in Cali while he was governor.)

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @07:55AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @07:55AM (#529891)

    Ah, the famous "homogeneous" excuse, also known as "we can't have nice things because blacks".

    An example of "Schrödinger's Europe", it's either totally homogeneous or overrun with rapefugees bent on imposing Sharia law, depending on the needs of your argument.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @08:47AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @08:47AM (#529907)

      It were mostly homogeneous but rapefugees are being let in at a rate that can't be handled properly. So some parts function like homogeneous regions, while other are filled with chaos people. It's a gradual change over time. Regardless the calm response is likely illusory.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @09:31AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @09:31AM (#529929)

        I see, so it is both depending on what supports your argument. Got it!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @10:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @10:29PM (#530277)

          You did invoke Schrodinger.