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posted by mrpg on Friday June 23 2017, @01:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the you-mean-the-whole-continent?!?! dept.

America leads the world when it comes to access to higher education. But when it comes to health, environmental protection, and fighting discrimination, it trails many other developed countries, according to the Social Progress Imperative, a U.S.-based nonprofit.

The results of the group's annual survey, which ranks nations based on 50 metrics, call to mind other reviews of national well-being, such as the World Happiness Report released in March, which was led by Norway, Denmark, and Iceland, or September's Lancet study on sustainable development. In that one, Iceland, Singapore, Sweden, and the U.S. took spots 1, 2, 3, and 28—respectively. 

The Social Progress Index released this week is compiled from social and environmental data that come as close as possible to revealing how people live. "We want to measure a country's health and wellness achieved, not how much effort is expended, nor how much the country spends on healthcare," the report states. Scandinavia walked away with the top four of 128 slots. Denmark scored the highest. America came in at 18. 

The Social Progress Index gives the US poor marks. America may, however, still lead the world in funny cat videos.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:08AM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:08AM (#529968)

    In many cases and in many places including the UK, Aus and the US, leaving islam carries the penalty of death, or worse (usually involving acid).
    Sure, they have a choice. Live in pain or worse for life or die. Not much of a choice.

    They don't give 8yo girls any choice in the wearing of a head scarf to "honour allah". How does a child refuse?

    Try again.

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 23 2017, @11:26AM (17 children)

    My cowardly comrade, if you aren't willing to put your life on the line for your convictions, you don't have any convictions.

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Kell on Friday June 23 2017, @02:31PM (8 children)

      by Kell (292) on Friday June 23 2017, @02:31PM (#530029)

      Or perhaps there is more benefit to living to make affect change, than making a hollow and ultimately futile point? The smart person works within a system to shape and direct it, rather than raging against a force beyond their ability to overcome in a petulant display of pique. That's why I respect reformers and leaders more than matyrs - it takes time to turn the tide of whole society, but when you do it is longer lasting and more effective.

      --
      Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @06:14PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @06:14PM (#530130) Journal

        Martyrs are an essential element. Without them, reformers and leaders have no touchstone.

        Smart people work within systems all the time thinking that's the way to effect change, but what mostly happens is they get tripped up and cut down and discouraged in a thousand ways. Without martyrs or other figures who cut through the crap, those smart people lose their writ to shut the avatars of the status quo the hell up.

        That said, martyrs alone don't make for lasting change either. Jesus would have existed without Paul, but without Paul there would have been no Christianity.

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        Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 23 2017, @11:23PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 23 2017, @11:23PM (#530306) Journal

        Oh I dunno, if he wants to kill himself to make a point, I say we let him :D Free country and all that. Of course he may have been including himself in that group of people who don't have any convictions...

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 24 2017, @10:47PM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 24 2017, @10:47PM (#530711) Journal

        Or perhaps there is more benefit to living to make affect change, than making a hollow and ultimately futile point?

        Knuckling under isn't living to make/affect change. I'll note that for many of these sorts of ideologies, you have to go out of your way to belong. You have to ignore a lot of the modern world, like in the case of Islam why Allah would permit the heathen, decadent US to be better off than your Islamic paradise. You have to wear some pretty substantial blinders.

        • (Score: 2) by Kell on Sunday June 25 2017, @02:22AM (4 children)

          by Kell (292) on Sunday June 25 2017, @02:22AM (#530757)

          I didn't say "knuckle under", I said live to make change. If putting on a burka in ISIS controlled territory keeps you alive long enough to get out or to raise your kids to not be murderers, then it's worth it. Going out in a singular blaze of glory prohibits any further actions after that point. Even small changes can add up over a long time - it's the integral under the curve that counts.

          --
          Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 25 2017, @04:33AM (3 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 25 2017, @04:33AM (#530781) Journal
            I said "knuckle under". I don't buy the narrative here. The ugly part of these things is that there aren't a bunch of people trying to make changes with or without the system.

            Even small changes can add up over a long time - it's the integral under the curve that counts.

            Except when those small changes don't actually happen.

            • (Score: 2) by Kell on Sunday June 25 2017, @03:37PM (2 children)

              by Kell (292) on Sunday June 25 2017, @03:37PM (#530893)

              Then why not be that person? Be the change you want to see in the world.

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              Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday June 26 2017, @12:31AM (1 child)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 26 2017, @12:31AM (#531025) Journal

                Then why not be that person?

                I believe I am.

                • (Score: 2) by Kell on Monday June 26 2017, @04:14AM

                  by Kell (292) on Monday June 26 2017, @04:14AM (#531107)

                  Excellent! I think we both agree you're doing more good that way than by being a martyr. I would miss you. :)

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                  Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
    • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Friday June 23 2017, @04:16PM (1 child)

      by i286NiNJA (2768) on Friday June 23 2017, @04:16PM (#530064)

      Really? Please tell us of your adventures in the military buzzy.. also I'm sure you've never backed down from a fight in your life.

      You're so full of shit if there was any truth to what you're saying you'd be dead by now. But it sounds cool right?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:16PM (#530091)

      Yeah those 8 year olds ought to be ashamed that there not willing to put there life on the line to stand up for your version of freedom, Freedom!, FREEDOM!

      can't... stop... eyes... from... rolling.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:13PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @11:13PM (#530298)

      I call your bluff. Video of your supposed "convictions" or you're just another hypocritical keyboard warrior.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:56AM (3 children)

        I could post my DD-214, I suppose, but I'm not going to. I have no need to prove my convictions to you. I've proven them to myself since before I could buy my own smokes. Your opinion is irrelevant.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Monday June 26 2017, @06:16PM (2 children)

          by i286NiNJA (2768) on Monday June 26 2017, @06:16PM (#531446)

          Why don't you tell us what your branch and MOS was. I think that'd be a good start.

  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday June 23 2017, @09:12PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Friday June 23 2017, @09:12PM (#530243)

    > They don't give 8yo girls any choice in the wearing of a head scarf to "honour allah". How does a child refuse?

    They don't give baby boys any choice in keeping their foreskins. How does a newborn refuse?