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In a coordinated campaign across 14 states, the German police on Tuesday raided the homes of 36 people accused of hateful postings over social media, including threats, coercion and incitement to racism.
Most of the raids concerned politically motivated right-wing incitement, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office, whose officers conducted home searches and interrogations. But the raids also targeted two people accused of left-wing extremist content, as well as one person accused of making threats or harassment based on someone's sexual orientation.
"The still high incidence of punishable hate posting shows a need for police action," Holger Münch, president of the Federal Criminal Police Office, said in a statement. "Our free society must not allow a climate of fear, threat, criminal violence and violence either on the street or on the internet."
The raids come as Germans are debating the draft of a new social media law aimed at cracking down on hate speech, a measure that an array of experts said was unconstitutional at a parliamentary hearing on Monday.
The measure, championed by Justice Minister Heiko Maas for passage this month, would fine Facebook, Twitter and other outlets up to $53 million (50 million euros) if they failed to remove hate speech and other forms of illegal content.
The left ladies and gentlemen.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday June 26 2017, @12:48AM (20 children)
You and he have the same sense of morals and humour apparently.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 26 2017, @12:57AM (7 children)
Being as you've never spoken to us outside comments, I hold your opinion to be of very little value.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday June 26 2017, @01:20AM (6 children)
A bizarre criteria for evaluating worth. You must spend a lot of your life on IRC.
Whatever. You are going for personal attacks, so I will say I hold your opinions to be of very little value as well. But it's because your opinions are partisan and mostly nonsense. I don't have to be on IRC to see that.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 26 2017, @01:47AM (5 children)
Personal attacks? You know me better than that. When has anyone here ever been in doubt if I was issuing a personal attack?
As for IRC, that's where the staff do the vast majority of our communicating, so we're almost always logged in. Quite a lot of discussion goes on there that you're apparently unaware of and an uninformed opinion of both myself and EF means your opinion is objectively worth very little.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday June 26 2017, @02:50AM (4 children)
Whatever goes on behind the curtain doesn't matter much. I see the end result. And it's disturbing.
But whatever. You won't ever understand that you are alienating other people with your EF-supporting rants. And unless that's cleaned up, SN will never get broader support.
I'm signing off SN now. You've convinced me to get away from this forum. Congratulations!
Now go back to your IRC hole and complain about "niggers in my yard", muslims, and leftists to your heart's content.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:03AM (1 child)
Yeah. This sucks. We used to have a fun IRC channel. The usual problems happened. They were dealt with.
One day this guy starts spamming the channel with pages of swear words. It went on for weeks. Most people moved to another channel.
The channel died. People just could not stand to be in there. The guy spamming the channel with pages of swear words was the IRC admin.
A couple of years later I moved state. I actually miss that IRC channel now.
Some people don't realise how much of a dick they are being.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:51AM
These are the people who would enjoy coming up with the most horrific insults while gaming, or chatting in IRC. They never grew out of their teenage troll mentality. They get jollies from pissing people off online, then hide behind freedom of speech and such so that they can sound superior. What else can we say? And yes, they have been steadily ruining this site.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 26 2017, @10:32AM
Being as you've done nothing but troll your black little heart out here either, I don't count it as a loss.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday June 26 2017, @11:09AM
Supporting the right to free speech is a bad thing?
Never, ever suppress free speech: if you don't like what you hear, walk/turn/look away.
The suppression of free speech is what you should be attacking: if we take away Ethanol's free speech, should we take away yours as well? What should we suppress and what shouldn't we?
DRAW THE LINE... right now, draw the line of what should be suppressed and what shouldn't.
Ethanol can be funny.... just like Andy Kaufman: sometimes, you just gotta watch closely to get it.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by BK on Monday June 26 2017, @01:03AM (10 children)
Just think. EF has you triggered. And he didn't even post in this thread. That's funny.
...but you HAVE heard of me.
(Score: 2) by Wootery on Monday June 26 2017, @08:14AM (9 children)
I don't buy it. You don't get to be smug (the 'u so triggered' BS) when people respond appropriately to bigoted posts.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 26 2017, @10:34AM (8 children)
Dude, that's exactly what trolls do. It's the freaking definition of a troll.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Wootery on Monday June 26 2017, @11:09AM (7 children)
I suppose that's true. So triggered just means failed to realise they're dealing with a troll.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @03:51PM (6 children)
Yup, it is a very high form of humor. Like those "just a prank bro" tools. Trolls bring shit to the discussion, it can be funny when done obviously enough, but EF and TMB are not master trolls. Their trolls are lame shock value crap which happens to be close enough to their real values that it is near impossible to tell. Their humor relies on knowing their character very well so you can see when its a troll.
So, while I like the freedom of speech aspect, these trolls are promoting censorship by showing that freedom results in this kind of shit. Long time users have already left the site or stopped getting involved with the discussions. Anyone on the fence will look at EF and the AC troll here and very possibly switch to being pro censorship.
No where does the freedom of speech require giving people a platform. I would prefer that everyone does away with hate speech laws and we regulate discussions ourselves as communities. But that might hurt the delicate sensitivities of the libertarian base here. Besides, this place is just the private playground for these people, they obviously don't care about quality of discussion. It is more about having a sandbox they can shit in without getting in trouble.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 26 2017, @05:27PM (4 children)
I think Eth is hilarious, in an awful way. He's just only tolerable in small doses. Uzzard, though, isn't trolling. Not really. He actually believes the shit he posts, and hides behind "hurr hurr it's a joke, snowflake" when called out on it.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 27 2017, @11:09AM (3 children)
Nah, you just lack the mental nuance to distinguish my trolls from my heartfelt positions.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 27 2017, @04:02PM (2 children)
Er, no, there is *no difference* between your trolls and your "heartfelt positions." You're shit from the ground up. At this point you have no credibility and I wouldn't believe you were human even if I saw your birth certificate.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 27 2017, @06:08PM (1 child)
Yes, we already know you're incapable of telling when I'm being serious and winding you up. You bite every single time.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 27 2017, @09:24PM
Says the guy who responds to every--single--post--every--time--i--reply.
You missed the point, as usual, you carrion-sucking shithead: you are such a worthless subhuman degenerate that there is no effective difference between your trolling and your supposed serious moments. In either case you're a stain on humanist.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 27 2017, @11:11AM
No, my cowardly compatriot, my humor lies in most of you being unable to distinguish a heartfelt position that disagrees with yours from just trying to wind you up.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 26 2017, @05:00AM
Eth is actually funny sometimes. I mean he's still going to hell but at least he's given us a few laughs along the way. Then there's J-Mo, Uzzard, and sometimes Runaway, who are just the cancerous melanomas on the ass of the body politic.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...