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posted by cmn32480 on Sunday June 25 2017, @10:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the wrong-thinking-will-be-punished dept.

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In a coordinated campaign across 14 states, the German police on Tuesday raided the homes of 36 people accused of hateful postings over social media, including threats, coercion and incitement to racism.

Most of the raids concerned politically motivated right-wing incitement, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office, whose officers conducted home searches and interrogations. But the raids also targeted two people accused of left-wing extremist content, as well as one person accused of making threats or harassment based on someone's sexual orientation.

"The still high incidence of punishable hate posting shows a need for police action," Holger Münch, president of the Federal Criminal Police Office, said in a statement. "Our free society must not allow a climate of fear, threat, criminal violence and violence either on the street or on the internet."

The raids come as Germans are debating the draft of a new social media law aimed at cracking down on hate speech, a measure that an array of experts said was unconstitutional at a parliamentary hearing on Monday.

The measure, championed by Justice Minister Heiko Maas for passage this month, would fine Facebook, Twitter and other outlets up to $53 million (50 million euros) if they failed to remove hate speech and other forms of illegal content.

The left ladies and gentlemen.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/world/europe/germany-36-accused-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @12:53AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @12:53AM (#531039)

    authoritarian leanings, which would be the right

    Nope. You would only say such nonsense if your completely-wrong "knowledge" of politics is 1-dimensional.
    Left and Right, properly labeled, would be Socialist and Capitalist, respectively.

    Now, there is often some overlap with folks' position on another completely different axis [politicalcompass.org] which gauges support for civil liberties vs concentrated authoritarian power.
    ...but there are e.g. Libertarian (Law of the Jungle) types who are anti-Authoritarians who are economically on the Right (Mike Gravel on the linked chart).

    It's always been the left that pushes the bounds of free speech

    Again, I wish you lazy humps would learn and use the correct terminology.
    Those are Reactionaries and Progressives.

    ...and recent experiences with the free speech of Milo Yiannopoulos [google.com] and Richard Spencer [google.com] say that you're way off the mark.
    (Inciting violence and calling for illegal activities is not given license by law.)

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday June 26 2017, @01:35AM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 26 2017, @01:35AM (#531055) Journal

    Again, I wish you lazy humps would learn and use the correct terminology. Those are Reactionaries and Progressives.

    Ok, how do you define "reactionaries" and "progressives"?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @02:24AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @02:24AM (#531071)

      First, they're proper nouns, defining groups, so they're capitalized.

      Next, having participated in several threads on the topic, you already know about Reactionaries.

      For others: It references a longing for a time in the distant past [google.com] when e.g.
      - there was segregation/Jim Crow
      - women couldn't vote
      - people (e.g. plantation owners) could own humans
      - people who didn't own land couldn't vote
      - people down on their luck didn't have a social safety net and could be exploited even more than usual

      .
      Defining "Progressives" typically involves the concept of "social reform" [google.com] i.e. proper civil liberties, as well as more equality in political power and wealth distribution.

      The former skews toward the Top Right of the political palate (previously linked) and the latter skews toward the Lower Left.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday June 26 2017, @04:52AM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 26 2017, @04:52AM (#531126) Journal
        I will continue to use lower case because proper nouns are used for unique entities not vague (and often non-existent) groupings. Proper nouns are used in discuss of ideology, religion, and other belief/philosophy systems, but when it does, it refers to a unique system with fairly well-defined characteristics. Even then, adherents to such a system are typically referred to in the lower case, because they aren't unique.

        Second, as I long suspected, "reactionary" is near purely imaginary. Sure, maybe you could get someone behind one or two of these alleged principles, but you aren't going to find many people going for most of them. But I guess the whole point of tarring someone with the reactionary label is to insinuate that they support these things. No point to bothering, if you ever intend to be sincere. I would suggest instead dropping the label for something more productive and descriptive, like say conservative. Progressive is way overused. I imagine the people behind the arrests of the story think they're progressive, but they're obnoxiously trampling freedom of speech (the most important of the civil liberties) for ridiculous purposes. Now, your progressives might be more civil liberty-loving, but once again, it seems unlikely that this label is being put forth sincerely.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @08:22AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @08:22AM (#531196)

          Second, as I long suspected, "reactionary" is near purely imaginary.

          Of course, khallow! The obvious explanation is that you is one, so you cannot see it, just like you cannot smell your own farts. There have been no conservatives in America since Teddy Roosevelt. Nothing but reactionaries, recidivists, crypto-royalists, racists, Southern Democrats, Shriners, and Oddfellows. Which one, or ones, are you, khallow?

          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday June 26 2017, @12:09PM (1 child)

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday June 26 2017, @12:09PM (#531267) Journal

            "There have been no conservatives in America since Teddy Roosevelt."

            That's funny. I always think of him as a progressive because of the platform of his Bull Moose party, the progressive party of 1912. Among its planks was women's suffrage, a ban on child labor, and tighter regulation of industrial combinations (monopolies and oligopolies to you and me). He was no Democrat, but somebody really fighting for the average American.

            --
            Washington DC delenda est.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @08:27PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @08:27PM (#531514)

              But Teddy did establish the National Parks! He was, unlike the foaming Reactionaries of today, an actual conservative who tried, you know, to conserve stuff. As opposed to destroying or selling to China, or letting Bundys overgraze the hell out of it.

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday June 26 2017, @04:25AM (1 child)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday June 26 2017, @04:25AM (#531113) Journal

    Inciting violence and calling for illegal activities is not given license by law.

    Where does it say you need a license?

    --
    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @08:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @08:02AM (#531183)

      given license [google.com]

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