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posted by martyb on Monday June 26 2017, @02:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the media-the-4th-estate dept.

http://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-sketch-artist-white-house-briefing-sean-spicer-2017-6

In response to the White House's recent trend of prohibiting cameras at press briefings, CNN on Friday said it sent its in-house Supreme Court sketch artist, Bill Hennessy, to Sean Spicer's latest press briefing.

CNN said it "equated press briefings to a Supreme Court argument -- an on-the-record event at which cameras are banned." The network argued sketches of the briefing had news value in the same way courtroom sketches do.

News organizations and the White House Correspondents' Association have protested the Trump administration's decision to scale back on-camera press briefings to unprecedented levels.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:40AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:40AM (#531117)

    Just as importantly, however, is the fact that all conferences are also transcribed. You can see a list/log of all conferences [here](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings). If anything was overtly left out or faked for malicious purposes, that is something the entire media would be immediately and clearly show the American public. That is also something that I think nobody would, ever, support.

    You might have a point, if we weren't waaay past that already, with no visible consequences.

    To give some examples, this administration has repeatedly lied about stuff that has video evidence, and transcriptions of official conversations with foreign leaders have been withheld and only false summaries given. Still a third of the population supports them, because the media "can't be trusted" and if you don't believe everything the White House says without question you're a traitor.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @06:01AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @06:01AM (#531147)

    No, we aren't "waay past that point." Let me give a simple example [politifact.com] from 'politifact' of a lie. Trump's statement, they rated as false was: "When you look for a job, you can't find it and you give up. You are now considered statistically employed."

    They seems like a pretty lol, Trump is such a lying idiot type line. However, the official unemployment number (what someone is referring to when they say the US unemployment rate is x%) is known as the U3. The U3 does not include 'marginally attached workers' which is what somebody who was searching for work but gave up are defined as. Here [bls.gov] are the BLS (bureau of labor statistics) definitions. Here [bls.gov] are the numbers for the various sorts of unemployment and what is counted in each. The politifact article further lied in defining people who gave up as a discouraged worker. A discouraged worker is a subset of marginally attached workers, being defined as people who sought within the past 4 weeks. The definition they gave in their "fact check" for discouraged workers was, in fact, the definition for a marginally attached worker. Can you see why people begin to see 'fact checkers' as fake news?

    To be clear I'm in no way suggesting Trump does not lie, and regularly. However (and this is in no way a defense of said actions), this is par for the course for all politicians. I think the behavior of our media is fueling political radicalism (on both sides) and I think that's never going to end well for anybody. The right thinking every president is about to turn into Hitler (or the anti christ for those that swing that way) is nothing new. I find it disconcerting that this stupidity is now also infecting the left. I don't see how two equal but opposite extremes can lead to anything but conflict. And nobody's going to win there.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @01:56PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @01:56PM (#531305)

      But Trump didn't say (per your post) "discouraged worker" or "marginally attached worker."

      He said (per your post) "employed."

      I don't give a fuck what he meant because anything Trump says is a Rorschach test. You're reading something Trump didn't actually say into something he said.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by art guerrilla on Monday June 26 2017, @02:15PM (4 children)

        by art guerrilla (3082) on Monday June 26 2017, @02:15PM (#531313)

        dog almighty, you ARE dense, and simply overcome with TDS...
        geezus, i don't like tee-rump, but you people are seriously delusional...
        .
        THE FACT of the matter is (aside from this being a GOOD example of the mediawhore's grandstanding gotchas the previous poster was very capably explicating), the unemployment numbers ARE TOTALLY FUCKED, and ONE major reason is EXACTLY as tee-rump mentioned in his VALID shorthand: 'STATISTICALLY EMPLOYED'... and he is 100% correct on that: people who have 'given up' looking, are effectively counted as 'employed' as far as the BULLSHIT stats go...
        .
        that YOU don't have a clue as to the REAL unemployment picture AND how it is GROSSLY distorted by statistical trickery and merely redefining things out of existence, then you don't know shit about shit...

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:44PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:44PM (#531390)

          but that isn't news -- even the last administration acknowledged this definition of how employment numbers are counted. Each administration will even take advantage of something they claimed the previous one couldn't claim. It's like negative profit instead of taking a loss--the numbers are the same but the wording changes.

          The propaganda in the media is the only difference. The actual means of accounting it has not differed between administrations.

          Trump just went off script as usual. His (perhaps inadvertant or just unguarded) honesty is not a change in longstanding policy and rhetoric, but I think it caught people off-guard.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @04:56PM (#531397)

          We need a new category: too stubborn to relocate and too dumb to retrain.

          Are they unemployed? Sure. Do they want a job? Sure. Are they waiting for a messiah to save them? Sure. Are they going to get one? Hah hah hhaah. I mean, sure. Trump.

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday June 26 2017, @09:16PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Monday June 26 2017, @09:16PM (#531549)

          This way, the US has half the unemployment of the pinko commie socialists in Europe... Do you really want to be like Europe? Look how their silly socialist system doesn't work, with all the unemployment! Big government is bad, if all those people are unemployed!
          Stay in the US and vote consevative, for only then shall you be rewarded with a non-living-wage poverty-assisted part-time at-will precarious job!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @11:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @11:58PM (#531649)

          Great opinion. Got any evidence to back it up?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @02:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @02:15PM (#531315)

        He said you're be considered statistically employed, and that is 100% accurate. Imagine there was literally not a single job available in the US and everybody wanted one. After exactly one month we'd have, according to the official numbers, 0% unemployment. That makes 0 sense, but it's the absurd system we have and exactly what he was mocking.