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posted by martyb on Monday June 26 2017, @01:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the well-recommended dept.

The Register is reporting that Microsoft recommends that you NOT install the recommended .NET Framework 4.7 update:

Earlier this month, Microsoft gave the world .NET Framework 4.7 and urged users to install it for the usual reasons: more fun bits to play with and a security improvements.

But two days later the company urged Exchange users not to install it ASAP, because it hadn't validated it yet. Last Friday - 10 days after the launch of the new code - it reminded users of Lync and Skype for Business not to install it either.

[...] "We are in the process of validating Exchange Server on the .NET Framework 4.7, but the work is not yet complete".

While that validation is happening, "please delay this particular .NET update on your Exchange servers".

If you followed the original recommendation and installed the framework, and now wish to follow their new recommendation, then Microsoft recommends you follow these instructions to roll it back.

 
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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Qlaras on Monday June 26 2017, @05:59PM (6 children)

    by Qlaras (3198) on Monday June 26 2017, @05:59PM (#531435)

    Surprise - testing big, complex things isn't an instant thing! Who knew?

    Anytime a new major version of the .NET Framework comes out, you usually need to skip it for Exchange, Skype for Business (Formerly Lync) and SharePoint until the next Cumulative Update. (Which are usually quarterly)

    ElReg making a stink about it means:

    1) They've never run any of the above systems
    2) Must be a slow news day/week, desperate for some content

    Until its RTM'd/released, they're still changing bits; so testing non-final-code isn't a guarantee that it'll work; and the amount of functions within each product to test makes testing dense and not-quick.

    The above Server software also didn't immediately support Windows Server 2016 on release; you had to wait for a following update to the bits to make it supported.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @09:12PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 26 2017, @09:12PM (#531543)

    The actual news is that M$ fired their entire testing department when the new CEO took roost.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Grishnakh on Monday June 26 2017, @09:41PM (1 child)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday June 26 2017, @09:41PM (#531573)

      The actual news is that M$ fired their entire testing department when the new CEO took roost.

      It'd be nice if this were more publicized, but it was absolutely the right move for MS. They don't need a testing or validation department, it's just a waste of money and produces negative shareholder value. Testing is a cost center, and is only worth it when it results in more sales. With Windows and other MS software, people are going to use it no matter how buggy it is, so there's just no point in doing a lot of testing to avoid bugs. At Intel, they created a big validation department in the wake of the infamous Pentium FDIV bug, because that bug cost them a *huge* amount of money in recalled chips. But with MS, bugs aren't going to cost them anything; they deliver software, not hardware, so they don't have to recall anything, and can just issue a patch, and moreover, there's no financial liability as their EULA quite clearly states that MS has no liability for software defects and customers use it at their own risk. So why bother testing?

      Some people trash Nadella's management skills, but I think he's the most competent CEO they've ever had. Why didn't stupid Ballmer ever think of cutting costs like this during his decade-long reign?

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday June 26 2017, @09:17PM (2 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday June 26 2017, @09:17PM (#531551)

    You're right, business as usual - people who have dealt with this for years will feel right at home.

    Also business as usual, daily nag notices on ALL of my Windows 10 boxes about how MS would like to schedule a convenient time for me to restart the system, and somehow hasn't been able to perform the previously scheduled restart. The only OS I've used that was worse about these kind of "oh, you want to use your device now?, well, just wait a few minutes while we try to get it ready for you" kind of notices was Sony's PS3 (can't speak about PS4, didn't buy one.)

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Monday June 26 2017, @09:35PM (1 child)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday June 26 2017, @09:35PM (#531567)

      The only OS I've used that was worse about these kind of "oh, you want to use your device now?, well, just wait a few minutes while we try to get it ready for you" kind of notices was Sony's PS3

      And people keep trying to tell me that newer game console are so much better than the NES I grew up with. I never had to wait a few minutes for that thing to start up, I just popped in a cartridge and hit the power button and it was on and playing instantly. (Luckily, I never had much trouble with bad contacts on cartridges that many people complained about, but I was also careful with my stuff, always putting the cartridges back in their sleeves when I removed them.)

      • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Monday June 26 2017, @09:49PM

        by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Monday June 26 2017, @09:49PM (#531579) Homepage Journal

        I just switched back to PC gaming after the last generation because I got fed up with that type of crap; at least with Steam, it will always start in offline mode if nothing else.

        I like to have my games ready to go on demand. I can understand installing updates for multiplayer, but waiting forever and a day for Fallout to install to the HDD is a major putoff, plus the costs for the officially "accepted" HDDs is absurd so you frequently have to delete and re-install games.

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