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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday June 27 2017, @10:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the what's-that-whooshing-sound dept.

NASA says the preliminary design review of its Quiet Supersonic Transport (QueSST) project suggests it is possible to create a supersonic aircraft that doesn't produce a sonic boom.

NASA says "Senior experts and engineers from across the agency and the Lockheed Martin Corporation concluded on Friday that the QueSST design is capable of fulfilling the LBFD aircraft's mission objectives, which are to fly at supersonic speeds, but create a soft 'thump' instead of the disruptive sonic boom associated with supersonic flight today."

NASA's commercial supersonic technology project manager Peter Coen explains, in this video, that "the idea is to design the airplane so that the shock waves that are produced in supersonic flight are arranged in such a way that you don't have a boom. You have just a general kind of a gradual pressure rise that produces a quiet sound."

NASA's next step is finding organisations willing to build a working model of the Low Boom Flight Demonstration (LBFD) experimental airplane and fly it over American cities and towns to hear how much noise it makes. It's hoped those flights could start in 2021.

Nah, rather travel in the kind of zeppelin Sergei Brin is building.


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  • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:32AM (7 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:32AM (#532250)

    There's a reason airlines fly at about 550 MPH. As you approach the sound barrier fuel MPG drops, fast. Hit the boom, MPG starts to level out again. But if memory serves going -10% speed of sound has better MPG than +10% speed of sound.

    That said, as the booms were the biggest problems before, if they can kill it then maybe they can offer long flights for maybe 20% less time and 20% more money.

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  • (Score: 2) by fishybell on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:54AM (1 child)

    by fishybell (3156) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:54AM (#532256)

    Recollection says the biggest reason they stopped the flights of the Concorde wasn't that one crashed, but that they weren't selling tickets like they needed. Fuel consumption and ticket prices were so high that continuing the flights was just not realistic after the perceived PR disaster that a single crash was.

    Oh, and they also blamed terrorists [wikipedia.org].

    • (Score: 2) by Zinho on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:00PM

      by Zinho (759) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:00PM (#532476)

      Recollection says the biggest reason they stopped the flights of the Concorde wasn't that one crashed, but that they weren't selling tickets like they needed.

      My Materials professor at university had a slightly different take on this. According to him, the entire Concorde fleet needed refitting/replacement at once, and (as you say) they weren't making the money needed to pay for the fleet update.

      The technical reason for the need to ground the fleet is interesting from an engineering standpoint. Unlike steel, Aluminum and Titanium are susceptible to fatigue cracking under cyclical loads of any magnitude: steel has a minimum threshold of stress needed before a crack will start, whereas Al and Ti will start to crack no matter how low the stress is as long as there is a load-unload cycle going on.

      On most airplanes there are indicator systems to watch so you know when to take a part out of service. For example, there's an engine rotation counter so you know when to replace your aluminum engine block; there's also a machined-in crack initiation point on aluminum support struts placed where it's easy to inspect, and when the diagnostic crack reaches a certain length you pull it out of service and replace all the aluminum parts on the plane.

      Unfortunately for the Concorde, the entire plane was made of Titanium, and the frames were reaching the end of their service life. The company knew that there were probably hard-to-find cracks throughout the structure, and it would soon be unsafe to fly them anymore - structural failure in flight is even harder to brush off than a popped tire on takeoff. Since they were all built at about the same time they all needed replacing at the same time. The entire fleet was basically good for nothing but scrap for melting down to forge new parts. The company either hadn't saved the money needed to rebuild, or decided that they'd rather pocket the cash and shut the service down rather than spend it on new planes that wouldn't deliver a good return on investment.

      That's my professor's story, anyhow, and he's sticking to it. It at least sounds plausible from a technical and financial point of view.

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  • (Score: 1) by anubi on Wednesday June 28 2017, @06:26AM (4 children)

    by anubi (2828) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @06:26AM (#532300) Journal

    Here's hoping that instead of using all that energy disturbing the air and making all that noise, this new plane slips through the atmosphere like a watermelon seed slips through the fingers.

    The last thing we all need right now are new airplane designs that are all bark and no bite. ( Like some motorcycles I know... loud noisy thing that seems to spend more energy making noise than moving the bike. )

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @08:27AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @08:27AM (#532327)

      Like some motorcycles I know... loud noisy thing that seems to spend more energy making noise than moving the bike.

      I heard explanation that it's a safety feature ... apparently, bikes have low visibility, so allegedly they need to be heard from inside car cabins, from a distance.

      • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday June 28 2017, @08:43AM

        by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @08:43AM (#532330)

        I heard explanation that it's a safety feature ... apparently, bikes have low visibility, so allegedly they need to be heard from inside car cabins, from a distance.

        For some reason the visibility is apparently only an issue with mostly one brand of bike.

      • (Score: 1) by Rich26189 on Wednesday June 28 2017, @10:51PM

        by Rich26189 (1377) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @10:51PM (#532678)

        If the pipes pointed forward I'd believe it.
        Have a friend that rides a Harley, he told me that at times when he's out riding in a group there are some that are asked to ride in rear of the pack.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @11:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @11:41PM (#532693)

        ...besides being rattly, slow, crap bikes, that is:

        (South Park clip)
        https://vimeo.com/15758959 [vimeo.com]