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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the tried-and-tested dept.

Recently launched and not yet operational, the HMS Queen Elizabeth's computers are running Windows XP.

The ship's officers defend this, claiming that the ship is secure, but the phrasing of their comments suggests that they really don't have a clue:
"It's not the system itself, of course, that's vulnerable, it's the security that surrounds it.
So the security is vulnerable?

"I want to reassure you about Queen Elizabeth, the security around its computer system is properly protected and we don't have any vulnerability on that particular score."

Apparently, where you buy your computers makes Windows XP more secure:
"The ship is well designed and there has been a very, very stringent procurement train that has ensured we are less susceptible to cyber than most."

He added: "We are a very sanitised procurement train. I would say, compared to the NHS buying computers off the shelf, we are probably better than that. If you think more Nasa and less NHS you are probably in the right place."

Didn't they learn from recent events how even air-gapped computers can be compromised?

Also covered at The Register, The Times, and The Guardian.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:21PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:21PM (#532420)

    The Chinese likely are still running their cyber on CP/M, so our cyber beats their cyber!

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:41PM (3 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:41PM (#532431) Homepage Journal

    They say that Windows XP makes this ship less susceptible to cyber. Smart move! I like ships that are less susceptible to cyber. Checking into getting Windows XP for #USA's Ford class of aircraft carriers. So the EMAILS system, the catapult, can't be hacked. Very important for when we fight China & Korea! #MAGA

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:33PM (#532458)

      Wait, you're not into cyber? You should try it some time. They let you just grab them by the private message.

    • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @05:12PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @05:12PM (#532527)

      Not quite Trumpy enough. Take 2: "Bigly sources tell me XP has the best cyber. I like ships who don't hacked. Let's make America's cyber great again so we don't get #FakeEmail and fake carrier catapults. Hate those! Very very important when taking on looosers like Iran and that Kim Junk Uug fellow, believe me."

      • (Score: 5, Touché) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday June 28 2017, @08:20PM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @08:20PM (#532612) Homepage Journal

        Are you mocking me? Malcolm Turnbull mocked me. He's looking for trouble. I don't want to broadcast to the enemy exactly what my plan is, but we are sending an armada, very powerful. We have submarines, very powerful, that I can tell you. To totally obliterate Canberra. We will work with our allies, including our friends and allies in the Muslim world, to extinguish this vile enemy from our planet. #WINNING

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Kilo110 on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:38PM (3 children)

    by Kilo110 (2853) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 28 2017, @02:38PM (#532462)

    I really really hate the word "cyber" in any of its forms.

    Hearing that word is a red flag that signals that person has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:04PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:04PM (#532479) Journal

      Hey baby, let's cyber.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @04:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @04:13PM (#532510)

      The military-industrial complex obtuseniks slinging that term around have beaucoup bucks, even people that know better will adapt to their lingo.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday June 28 2017, @06:11PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @06:11PM (#532549) Journal

      I really really hate the word "cyber" in any of its forms.

      "So we had to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son—he’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe, it's hardly doable. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester. And certainly cyber is one of them."

      Donald J Trump (the real one...)