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posted by martyb on Sunday July 09 2017, @07:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the can-you-plan-to-fail...-and-succeed? dept.

CHICAGO — To graduate from a public high school in Chicago, students will soon have to meet a new and unusual requirement: They must show that they’ve secured a job or received a letter of acceptance to college, a trade apprenticeship, a gap year program or the military.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/chicago-wont-allow-high-school-students-to-graduate-without-a-plan-for-the-future/2017/07/03/ac197222-5111-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html

To make this stranger, all the students automatically meet this requirement since they are pre-approved for a community college:

A top CPS official also acknowledged, however, that every Chicago public high school graduate essentially already meets the new standard because graduation guarantees admittance to the City Colleges of Chicago community college system.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-rahm-emanuel-high-school-requirement-met-20170405-story.html


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Sunday July 09 2017, @08:08AM (8 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Sunday July 09 2017, @08:08AM (#536780) Journal

    12 years of school, at tax payer expense.
    Kept your grades up.
    Want to take a couple years off and drive around the country.
    No chance of getting a job, because they're withholding your diploma.

    Being admitted to City Colleges doesn't mean you can pay for it - or that the degree would be worth anything if you graduated.

    Seems a bit of a money grab.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 09 2017, @08:21AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 09 2017, @08:21AM (#536782)

    Besides, who needs a college degree anyway? There are plenty of full stack tech jobs that require only a high school diploma or equivalent, right? High school graduates look at lucrative jobs openings and don't know yet every job is fake and the real requirement is an H1B visa.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 09 2017, @11:45AM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 09 2017, @11:45AM (#536799) Journal

    So, you do some paperwork, and submit it to the community college(s), with copies for the high school. You can demonstrate that you have a "plan", get your diploma, then go do whatever the hell you were going to do anyway.

    It sounds like a dick move, really. The law's authors meant well, I suspect, but there are always unintended consequences. Or, as you say, a money grab.

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday July 09 2017, @04:17PM (3 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday July 09 2017, @04:17PM (#536847) Homepage

      Not to mention that it's meaningless because nobody graduates High School in Chicongo. That's GED city, baby.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 09 2017, @10:38PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 09 2017, @10:38PM (#536952)

        I wouldn't even get a GED. The entire school (not education) system is a disaster and no one should play along with it, out of principle. Become an autodidact and get a real education; any employer who doesn't hire you over that was foolish and not worth your time anyway.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 09 2017, @11:28PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 09 2017, @11:28PM (#536966)

          ...because it's just that easy.
          Most people don't need teachers, mentors, or experts; they come out of the womb ready to lick the world.
          /sarc

          Some claim that the son of a tradesman [google.com] became the greatest writer in the English-speaking world--in an era where there was no public education and only the children of the wealthy could have such a "luxury".

          Many recognize that it is far more likely that an aristocrat [google.com] with all the advantages of inherited wealth wrote all that stuff.

          Not saying it's not possible to educate yourself, but most folks need lots of guidance along the way.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday July 10 2017, @07:33PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 10 2017, @07:33PM (#537287) Journal

            "Most people don't need teachers, mentors, or experts; "

            The school system provides teachers. Mentors and experts are often enough unrelated to the teaching profession. Very, very, VERY few people are self educated, but many people have been educated without much if any formal education.

  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Sunday July 09 2017, @12:44PM

    by VLM (445) on Sunday July 09 2017, @12:44PM (#536807)

    Being admitted to City Colleges doesn't mean you can pay for it

    Without even looking I can tell you this being Chicago some account is collecting money per application, doesn't really matter if its coming from taxpayers or directly from the kids.

    I would predict this will be implemented in the future as a graduation tax... you want your kid to graduate, you'd pay anything right, so they'll increase prices to pay anything levels much like college tuition or health care. I would not be surprised if in a couple years there's a $500 "application fee" or you don't get your letter until you pay up and the cancellation-with-refund date is before the graduation letter due date so they get to keep a semester of tuition. Or it'll be used to enter the kids into the debt system.

  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday July 10 2017, @06:22PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday July 10 2017, @06:22PM (#537235) Journal

    Being admitted to City Colleges doesn't mean you can pay for it

    And writing it down in your plan doesn't mean you actually have to attend.

    Is it terrible to give HS kids an assignment to at least consider their future options?