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posted by martyb on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:50AM   Printer-friendly
from the real-battle-is-just-warming-up dept.

Australian Broadcast Corporation publishes an interview with Al Gore, in which Gore says US "is going to meet the commitments of the Paris Agreement, regardless of what Donald Trump says or does".

In Australia to promote his latest film, An Inconvenient Sequel, the climate campaigner and one-time presidential candidate said Mr Trump was out of step domestically and internationally.

"The country as a whole is going to meet the commitments of the Paris Agreement, regardless of what Donald Trump says or does," Mr Gore told 7.30.

"He has isolated himself. He's not irrelevant, I won't pretend that, but it's encouraging to me that the country is moving forward without him."

Every G20 country, except the United States, recently signed a declaration to make binding the Paris climate agreement to eventually cut net emissions to zero.

Mr Gore argued it showed the rush towards renewables was unstoppable.

"There is a distinction between Donald Trump and the United States of America, especially on the climate issue," he said.

"The country as a whole is moving forward, the progress cannot be stopped.

"The economic realities have changed. The price of electricity from solar and wind and now the price declines in battery storage and the efficiency improvements of all kinds, these are economic realities that are really kicking in in a powerful way.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday July 12 2017, @01:00PM (25 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 12 2017, @01:00PM (#538050) Journal

    Maybe the G19 should recognize they need to solve the problems without the help of the US. The US has isolated and is isolating itself. The actions of the illiterate orange clown represent the will of we the citizens, even though Trump did not win the popular vote. The rest of the world outside the US is 96 % of the Earth's population. (Google US population, google earth population, use l33t math skills to divide.)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @01:42PM (22 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @01:42PM (#538065)

    illiterate orange clown

    So you want Trump to get reelected by continuing to associate his opposition with drivel?

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday July 12 2017, @03:25PM (21 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 12 2017, @03:25PM (#538127) Journal

      It's done. I accept the outcome. I simply don't take any of it seriously any more.

      Clearly less than half the people can control the outcome of the election, and in the process choose not a respectable republican candidate, but the worst of the worst. It isn't deserving of respect or being taken seriously. It's a reality TV game show now. A bad one that affects all our lives. But a game show nevertheless.

      I'll point to George W Bush. I didn't like him. I disagreed with his policies. But I still had respect for the system and a certain amount of respect for him holding the office.

      Now we have a clown. An illiterate clown. Who cannot speak in complete sentences. Who knows nothing about politics. Who has no real policy ideas. Who doesn't care about ethics. Who can't even staff his administration. Drivel you say? It's all drivel now. It's just a cynical opinion. Don't take it too seriously.

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday July 12 2017, @03:58PM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday July 12 2017, @03:58PM (#538138) Journal

        You should have been saying this in 1981 about Reagan. Neither Trump nor Dubya were our first idiot president; Reagan was, and we are *still* suffering the effects of that senile fucking clown's trickle-down voodoo bullshit. I'm gonna visit him in Hell and spend some time torturing him myself when this is all over.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @06:23PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @06:23PM (#538223)

          "trickle-down voodoo bullshit"

          When the new US dollars are created[1] do they give it directly to you? Or do they give it to some huge bank and hope they loan it out to people like you? That is the real trickle down economics going on.

          [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @04:45PM (9 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @04:45PM (#538167)

        Trump "can't even staff his administration" because democrats are blocking appointments. About 3/4 are blocked as of a few days ago.

        What the Hell? The democrats are determined to cause troubles for Trump, even if it hurts the country.

        • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @04:55PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @04:55PM (#538173)

          His hands are tied because Democrats control both houses of Congress.

          • (Score: 4, Informative) by Thexalon on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:27PM (4 children)

            by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:27PM (#538188)

            Err, what? Republicans hold a majority in both houses of Congress.

            And, from what has been reported, Trump has a habit of refusing potential nominees his subordinates are putting forward, because the suggested people have a clue what they're doing.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:13PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:13PM (#538351)

              I think GP was supposed to be sarcasm.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @11:28PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @11:28PM (#538432)

                His tiny hands are tied because Democrats control both Beauty Pagents of Congress.

                FTFY.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @10:30PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @10:30PM (#538397)

              The senate it still operating under dumb 1970s rules that allow a phony fillibuster. (you can take a break, putting the legislation aside to do other things, so a fillibuster is way too easy)

              McCain and Murkowsky are practically democrats.

              Oh, and a Bernie supporter actually shot at republicans, leaving one severely wounded and in the hospital. Funny, the claim was that republicans would get violent if Clinton won, but that never happened when Obama won. Hmmm, seeing in other people how you yourself would behave? Yep.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @08:13AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @08:13AM (#538630)

                Take away: Republican Senate is dumb. But then, we knew that already. Republicans try to repeal Obamacare, but they can't! Thanks, Obama! No, seriously, Thank you President of the United States of America Obama. Dumb Republicans!

                (FBI, if you're reading, keep an eye on the parent AC.)

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:39PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:39PM (#538191)

          The democrats are determined to cause troubles for Trump, even if it hurts the country.

          Standard Democratic M.O. They cannot help themselves.

          They paint the guy as devil incarnate and keep obstructing at every turn. That is the way it is. I seen this with every Republican President in my lifetime. I do my best to ignore them at this point.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:31PM (#538254)

          They learned from the Republicans' actions during the Obama presidency.

          Still is dumb.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:57PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:57PM (#538334)

          the top republicans are treasonous pieces of shit too. the people that voted for them voted to repeal (not replace!) but these stupid bitches are trying to force the same shit as the socialists. surprise, surprise. for some reason republicans don't seem to notice. they're all like "but muh replace!" everyone in congress except the freedom caucus should be rounded up and thrown in jail for sedition.

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:16PM (4 children)

        by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:16PM (#538182)

        But I still had respect for the system

        I didn't. He "won" that 5 votes to 4 in a Supreme Court decision that was legally absurd. Because the court's decision was: "You would need to count every vote in Florida by hand in order to have a fair count of the vote. But because there's an artificially-imposed deadline, rather than tell you to count all the votes in Florida and push back the deadline which doesn't actually matter much, we're instead going to announce that there's no possible way you can count the votes properly and instead will declare the original tally, which we already know is incorrect, to be the one that counts." One particularly choice quote mentions that Americans don't have a right to vote for president. And the real clincher is that that particular case, unlike every other court case the Supreme Court has decided since 1789, cannot be cited as precedent for other cases.

        In short, Bush becoming president wasn't about the law or the wishes of We the People, and everything about 5 Supreme Court justices putting their own political affiliation ahead of everything else.

        Frankly, I haven't experienced a good president in my entire lifetime. In my opinion, Clinton, Obama, and Bush Sr were mediocrities at best. Reagan, Bush Jr, and now Trump have all done a great deal to wreck the place. Heck, Richard Nixon looks like a great statesman compared to some of these clowns.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:39PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 12 2017, @05:39PM (#538190) Journal

          I'm not saying any of them were "good". I'm saying I would take any of them over what we have now. But IMO the system is broken and is spinning out of control. It will not be, cannot be, fixed. Just an opinion.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:55PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:55PM (#538330)

          Press organizations were allowed to recount the Florida vote after the election. There were several dozen conducted. All of them except 3 showed Bush won Florida - and one of the 3 for Gore had him winning by 3 votes. So Bush really did win Florida. The "inaccurate" initial vote was right after all. Note that every single final total differed by at least a few votes. That's how reality works. There is no magic "definitive correct vote total" in any election. Questionable ballots require judgments, and people differ in these. But an overwhelming preponderance of one outcome is definitive.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:59PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:59PM (#538337)

          unfortunately, as a president, if you aren't assassinated you aren't trying hard enough.

          • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday July 13 2017, @04:06AM

            by Thexalon (636) on Thursday July 13 2017, @04:06AM (#538552)

            Actually, some of our best presidents were not assassinated.

            George Washington, James Polk, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower all avoided assassination attempts, and all managed to do quite a bit of good for this country.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:17PM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:17PM (#538246) Journal

        a respectable republican candidate

        Watch me grinning out loudly.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:46PM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:46PM (#538322) Journal

          Respectability is relative. Gray looks pretty light compared to black.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:45PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:45PM (#538375)

            You just missed the proper colour to compare grey with.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:52AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:52AM (#538485)

        Clearly less than half the people can control the outcome of the election

        You only just realised this? Most American's don't even bother to vote. Only a tiny percentage is enough to change the outcome.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @02:07PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @02:07PM (#538084)

    The "Paris Agreement" will fall apart now that there is no US money to steal by being part of it. All the other countries will drop out one by one, and try to come up with a different scheme to fleece the US. The US is not isolated, we have many new allies against the globalists, and we will stand strong and prevail.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @03:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @03:02AM (#538529)

      "...our values, our country and our way of life, will always prevail." - Theresa May

      "Our values will prevail. Our people will thrive. And our civilization will triumph." - Donald Trump