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Pale Moon 27.4.0 Released

posted by martyb on Friday July 14 2017, @05:56AM   Printer-friendly
from the replacement-for-my-firefox dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

After a few months of development, the Pale Moon browser has released its latest iteration. Along with security features, the key release for this version seems to be centered around expanding the browser's media support.

Release notes here.

Offtopic, but somehow relevant: they also published the results of their survey in March. The feedback says a lot about the browser's user base, and highlights the direction the team will take in the future.

[What browser(s) do you use? Do you use a separate browser for certain sites? Same browser for everything you access online? What browser differences lead you to use one browser over another? -Ed.]

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by fustakrakich on Friday July 14 2017, @06:19AM (10 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday July 14 2017, @06:19AM (#538990) Journal

    Netscape [seamonkey-project.org].

    Everything else is a fleeting instance of fame.

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Friday July 14 2017, @07:01AM (3 children)

    by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Friday July 14 2017, @07:01AM (#538999) Homepage Journal

    I did use Mosaic and then Netscape for a long time before moving to Firefox.

    It worked pretty well.

    However, SeaMonkey is *not* Netscape. It doesn't have any of the Netscape code. I did play with it a while ago. Perhaps I'll check it out again now that Firefox is turning to shit.

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    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Friday July 14 2017, @07:02AM

      by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Friday July 14 2017, @07:02AM (#539000) Homepage Journal

      Grr! Messed up the link to the Mosaic [wikipedia.org] Wikipedia page.

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    • (Score: 2) by dry on Saturday July 15 2017, @07:22AM (1 child)

      by dry (223) on Saturday July 15 2017, @07:22AM (#539484) Journal

      However, SeaMonkey is *not* Netscape. It doesn't have any of the Netscape code.

      Actually it does, along with Firefox, there's still some code from Netscape in NSPR and NSS, both of which are very conservative about excepting patches, other code such as the widgets where the skeleton is left over from Netscape but most of the code has been updated and in the case of SeaMonkey,or its source name, suite, the mailnews and the suite itself are direct descendants of Netscape, perhaps most of the code has been changed, but some still dates from the initial CVS import.
      Understand that SeaMonkey shares most of its code with Firefox and being a volunteer project, it's all they can do to keep up with the Firefox build changes. When Firefox moves away from XUL, XPCOM etc, SeaMonkey will probably die, or at least no longer be worth using for the same reasons as Firefox.

      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday July 15 2017, @08:38AM

        by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Saturday July 15 2017, @08:38AM (#539492) Homepage Journal

        However, SeaMonkey is *not* Netscape. It doesn't have any of the Netscape code.

        Actually it does, along with Firefox, there's still some code from Netscape in NSPR and NSS, both of which are very conservative about excepting patches, other code such as the widgets where the skeleton is left over from Netscape but most of the code has been updated and in the case of SeaMonkey,or its source name, suite, the mailnews and the suite itself are direct descendants of Netscape, perhaps most of the code has been changed, but some still dates from the initial CVS import.
        Understand that SeaMonkey shares most of its code with Firefox and being a volunteer project, it's all they can do to keep up with the Firefox build changes. When Firefox moves away from XUL, XPCOM etc, SeaMonkey will probably die, or at least no longer be worth using for the same reasons as Firefox.

        That may well be. I based my statement on information from here [wikipedia.org]:

        In March 1998, Netscape released most of the development code base for Netscape Communicator under an open source license.[16] Only pre-alpha versions of Netscape 5 were released before the open source community decided to scrap the Netscape Navigator codebase entirely and build a new web browser around the Gecko layout engine which Netscape had been developing but which had not yet incorporated. The community-developed open source project was named Mozilla, Netscape Navigator's original code name. America Online bought Netscape; Netscape programmers took a pre-beta-quality form of the Mozilla codebase, gave it a new GUI, and released it as Netscape 6. This did nothing to win back users, who continued to migrate to Internet Explorer. After the release of Netscape 7 and a long public beta test, Mozilla 1.0 was released on 5 June 2002. The same code-base, notably the Gecko layout engine, became the basis of independent applications, including Firefox and Thunderbird. [emphasis added]

        nss and nspr are essential modules, but the bulk of seamonkey code bears no resemblance to any production Netscape code.

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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday July 14 2017, @07:50AM (3 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday July 14 2017, @07:50AM (#539009) Homepage
    "Web-browser, advanced e-mail, newsgroup and feed client, IRC chat, and HTML editing made simple—all your Internet needs in one application."

    So no torrent client? That's not "all my internet needs", then. And why limit things to clients - my internet needs include provision of services too. Seamonkey does not do what nginx does, nor act as a file server on any level.

    Lesson - when marketting people use the word "you", usually they mean "some imaginary other person".
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @03:18PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @03:18PM (#539146)

      Probably dropped gopher support as well. Lynx can still go after gophers though.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @02:05AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @02:05AM (#539434)

        Archie, is that you?!?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @06:56AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @06:56AM (#539481)

          Most modern browsers still support FTP AFAIK.

  • (Score: 1) by Z-A,z-a,01234 on Friday July 14 2017, @10:11AM

    by Z-A,z-a,01234 (5873) on Friday July 14 2017, @10:11AM (#539044)

    Yesir! I've been using it from ~2001 and never felt that the other browsers were in any way better.

  • (Score: 2) by t-3 on Friday July 14 2017, @04:00PM

    by t-3 (4907) on Friday July 14 2017, @04:00PM (#539172)

    Yep, Seamonkey is the best, I use it for any serious browsing. I do use dmenu + surfraw + luakit for quick searches, but the instability (doesn't handle tiling wm well, the renderer crashes whenever window size changes), and config changes every update make it too much work to be my main browser.