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posted by martyb on Saturday July 15 2017, @03:29PM   Printer-friendly
from the Stockholm-Syndrome dept.

I saw an story in Slate about stagnant wages in an economy that is growing otherwise:

There's a disturbance in the force of the U.S. economy. An airline canceled flights because it couldn't find enough pilots to steer them. Despite high demand, homebuilders in Colorado are throttling back activity because they can't find the workers to erect frames. Farmers in Alabama are fretting that crops may rot in the ground for a lack of workers to bring in the harvest.

[...] There are a whopping 5.7 million job openings (well over twice the level of eight years ago). Meanwhile, baby boomers are aging out of the workforce at a rapid clip and Mexicans, many of whom crossed the border to work, have been leaving the U.S. for years. The demand for workers is high.

Given these conditions, wages should be rising sharply. But look at this chart from the Atlanta Federal Reserve: They haven't been, and they're not. … Last week, the New York Times featured a Columbus, Ohio, cleaning company owner mystified that he couldn't find applicants for his $9.25-per-hour jobs ("I sometimes wish there was actually a higher unemployment rate," he actually said) and a Nebraska roofer who couldn't figure out why nobody applied for the $17-an-hour jobs she was offering. "The pay is fair," she said.

Actually, if not a single person applies for your job, the pay probably isn't fair. But that's where America remains stubbornly stuck: Employers won't pay enough, and workers either won't or can't demand more. There are likely a lot of reasons, but the biggest, or least most fixable, may be psychological: From an economic perspective, both sides of the hiring market should have the power to increase overall wages in the current climate—but they aren't.

[...] There could be a skills gap in which the workers out there simply don't have the training necessary to fill the open jobs. Or it could be that, as Binyamin Appelbaum of the New York Times ventured on Twitter, that "a lot of American businesses have lost the muscle memory of how to compete for workers." That is to say, they have literally forgotten the words to use, and the tools to deploy, when workers aren't lining up in droves to fill their positions.

I also found this in the Daily Caller. It discusses the shortage of H2B workers this year. Most folks here know about H1B workers... H2B is program for low skill seasonal workers which has seen rule changes and cuts this year.

Businesses in Bar Harbor, Maine are turning to locals to make up for a shortage of foreign guest workers that normally fill summer jobs in the bustling seaside resort town.
Because the H-2B visa program has already reached its annual quota, Bar Harbor's hotels, restaurants and shops can't bring in any more foreign workers for the rest of the busy summer tourist season.

[...] The shortage is so acute that companies are sweetening incentives for local workers. Searchfield says some businesses are offering flexible schedules that might appeal to older workers who might be interested in working only a day or two each week. And other companies have gone so far as to offer higher wages to entice locals.

Imagine that.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by mcgrew on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:42PM (11 children)

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:42PM (#539600) Homepage Journal

    We let them kill the unions.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:52PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:52PM (#539606)

    We've all been raised on Google and Facebook to believe that one day we'd be billionaires and YouTube celebrities and rockstar coders. But we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

    Fight! Fight!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @10:37PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @10:37PM (#539670)

      Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.

      In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @11:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @11:09PM (#539684)

        Sears Tower is Willis Tower now. There's a missed opportunity for a giant dick joke if only Fight Club had been made ten years later. Of course if Fight Club had been made ten years later, then Tyler's 1990s-era emo nihilist message would have fallen completely flat, because the men who he called the middle children of history got their great war in the War on Terror and they got their great depression in the Great Recession.

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Sunday July 16 2017, @05:45PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Sunday July 16 2017, @05:45PM (#539948)

        Actually, that's not true: People are spending far less on discretionary expenses like clothes or restaurant meals than they did 20 years ago.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @11:03PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @11:03PM (#539681)

      I think it started on the participation awards in school.

      People used to get rewarded for achievement. Then someone cried. Now everyone can be a millionare if you just follow The Secret; Oprah advertised it right here on the facebooks.

    • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Sunday July 16 2017, @05:20AM (2 children)

      by Magic Oddball (3847) on Sunday July 16 2017, @05:20AM (#539809) Journal

      We've all been raised on Google and Facebook

      Well, that might explain a lot...about Millennials, at least — it doesn't say a thing about people over 34 years old, which would include most Soylentils. I think the message most of us got was more along the lines of "if you go to a good college and work hard, you'll make a decent living."

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @11:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @11:34AM (#539870)

        For those over 35, most of them were raised by TV to think all they have to do is stand around being clever, then a quick commercial break or montage later, the dirty work is done and we can all relax. That's the problem I have with my employees. None of them want to actually do anything other than stand around being clever and wait for someone else to do the real work. As for raises... I made the mistake of entering the education market. My products have outstanding reviews and teachers absolutely love them. Kids respond to them. But I can't sell enough to pay myself more than most of my employees get. Same answer every time-- "it's not in the budget." You can't tell me we don't have enough kids, or that our education system is so good we don't need to improve. From my perspective, our biggest problem in this country is lack of respect for *effective* education that teaches creative thinking skills. Instead, we're training meat-robots who can't do anything without being told explicitly, in detail, what to do, how to do it and when to start, then follow up to make sure they keep doing it until it's finished and check that they did it right. I have this experience almost every day.

        And this is how our country will fall. What's the point of national defense? Why bother building the strongest castle in the land if we're only giving the keys over to a band of idiots? (See current president for example... He's not an idiot, he's a Russian pawn. It's the idiots who put him in charge.)

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Sunday July 16 2017, @05:46PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Sunday July 16 2017, @05:46PM (#539949)

        I think the message most of us got was more along the lines of "if you go to a good college and work hard, you'll make a decent living."

        Yup, that was exactly the message drilled into kid's heads since at least the 1980's. And the trouble is that we now know that it isn't true.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by jmorris on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:58PM (1 child)

    by jmorris (4844) on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:58PM (#539608)

    Good riddance. Unions died because workers realized two things about them:

    1. You were going to be a slave to the Communists or the Mob. Every union quickly becomes a plaything of one or both. There is no fix, they attract both like maggots to rotting meat so you can have all the 'reforms' you like and in a few years one or both will be right back feasting on the free resources of dues and political power.

    2. Unions improve material working conditions, but the cost quickly becomes apparent. The first is the work rules turn what used to be a livable job in to a drudgery of trying to accomplish anything useful while dodging the shop steward. The second is the unavoidable terminal state as union demands grow without bound, until the parasite kills the host employer. Yea, good job while it lasts... until it gets outsourced or the employer simply goes bankrupt. See Detroit and the whole Rust Belt.

    That is why the last union stronghold is the one FDR said should never be allowed to establish itself, government workers. I'll leave it to the student to figure out why government unions are a bad idea yet still persist.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @06:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @06:04PM (#539610)

      See Detroit and the whole Rust Belt.

      I can't wait for Silicon Valley to implode as Indian Technology companies cut off the looting heads of their worthless American managers and the American tech industry disappears just like the auto industry did.