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IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban

posted by Fnord666 on Monday July 17 2017, @12:03PM   
from the trumped-again dept.

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El Reg reports

The Internet Engineering Task Force has taken the rare (and possibly costly) decision to relocate an upcoming meeting out of America.

IETF 102, scheduled for mid-2018, was booked for the San Francisco Hilton, but instead will be held in the Fairmont Hotel in Montreal.

The reason, as announced by IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) chair Leslie Daigle, is the President Donald Trump administration: American travel restrictions make attendance uncertain.

[...] travel restrictions have been bounced around between the US legal system and the White House, and the Oversight Committee hasn't seen anything to reduce that uncertainty.

[...] it is impossible to know or predict the extent of the restrictions placed on individuals attempting to attend IETF 102 twelve months from now, or the level of uncertainty that will exist, and the impact that will have on the ability for the IETF to hold a successful meeting in the United States at that time. However, the current orientation and actions of the US government provide no basis for expecting conditions at the US border to improve for non-citizens.

[...] if the IETF cannot stage something in San Francisco, it will likely lose any deposit paid to the venue.

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• ''engineers are unusually likely to be terrorists' ''engineers are unusually likely to be terrorists' (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @06:28PM (2 children)

  by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @06:28PM (#540454)

  Citation needed

  in the USA, engineers are far more conservative and creationist than scientists are

  Citation needed

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• Re:''engineers are unusually likely to be terroris Re:''engineers are unusually likely to be terroris (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @11:55PM (1 child)

  by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @11:55PM (#540641)

  http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/02/the-liberal-arts-are-dead-long-live-stem/ [thefederalist.com]

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  • Liberal arts types trying out for STEM (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18 2017, @03:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18 2017, @03:44AM (#540754)

    That's actually not new.
    Decades ago, I saw a bunch of those folks in my curriculum.
    They had managed to make it into the program but couldn't complete the coursework and never got the sheepskin.

    ...and most of them had never tinkered with anything in their lives--beyond twisting a knob on a TV.
    They weren't there because they had an aptitude or an interest in tech, they'd heard that tech was lucrative.

    Heh. My freshman year, we had a guy in the class who all the instructors already knew.
    It was his 3rd try at getting through the first years' coursework.
    (He didn't make it that time either.)

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