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posted by martyb on Saturday July 22 2017, @08:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the cutting-things-short dept.

The ACLU of Tennessee has criticized a judge's sentence reduction deal for inmates. Judge Sam Benningfield signed an order permitting a 30-day sentence reduction for male inmates who agree to have vasectomy and female inmates who agree to get the birth control implant Nexplanon, which prevents pregnancy for four years.

The program is voluntary. However, the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee has condemned the program, calling it "unconstitutional." [...] But Benningfield, who declined to speak to NBC News, told News Channel 5 that he is trying to encourage "personal responsibility" among inmates, who will not "be burdened with children" when they are released. "This gives them a chance to get on their feet and make something of themselves," Benningfield told the station.

Since the program began, 32 women have received the birth control implant and 38 men have agreed to have a vasectomy, News Channel 5 reported. It was not immediately clear how many men have undergone the surgery.

Inmates can get two days knocked off their sentences for attending a course about the risks of babies born addicted to opioids:

America's opioid crisis is expanding to a new class of victims—unborn children. Infants are being born with symptoms of withdrawal, also known as Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome, or NAS. In the last decade, states like Tennessee have seen a ten-fold rise in the number of babies born with NAS.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by bradley13 on Saturday July 22 2017, @08:46PM (16 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Saturday July 22 2017, @08:46PM (#543078) Homepage Journal

    Kind of a self-selecting Darwin award, wouldn't you say?

    Seriously, why not? No one is forced to do this, and a little eugenics will do the species no harm.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:00PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:00PM (#543082)

    "a little eugenics will do the species no harm"

    Please take a little time to think about the moral implications of such a statement. Also, what criteria should be used to decide fitness in the scenario(s) you're envisioning? Eugenics does not have a rosy history...

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:34PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:34PM (#543103)

      "Please take a little time to think about the moral implications of such a statement."

      Why ? Do ghetto scum who commit murder or rape take time to think about moral implications ?

      SJW fools like you sicken me. Just wait until someone you love is raped or killed, you'll gain a better understanding of the real world after that.

      Not everything that's politically incorrect is a bad idea, but if course you actually have to THINK to understand this.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @10:38PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @10:38PM (#543132)

        That's enough internet for you today, kiddo...
        While you're right that not everything that is politically incorrect, is also bad idea, we've gone through multiple rounds of trying to apply eugenics in the past as a species and as a society. It has never worked out well.
        Until you are willing to be culled, do not call for the culling of others. You may think you are part of the in-group today, but trust me, you either aren't or will find yourself part of the out-group very soon...

        Now hand over your crayons and go play nicely in the sandbox.

        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @12:06AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @12:06AM (#543175)

          "That's enough internet for you today, kiddo..."

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          Go fuck yourself, you sad little pussy boy.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @04:56PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @04:56PM (#543394)

            Hey troll, get off the ney and experience the "real world" which you have such a skewed perspective of.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @03:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @03:39AM (#543252)

        The claim that SJWs, as you call them, don't know anyone who has been killed or raped shows you up as spectacularly ignorant.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:03PM (#543083)

    Why not? Well, one thing that springs to mind is that this comes harrowingly close to cruel and unusual punishment. If I'm not mistaken, the Bill of Rights has something to say about that. As for eugenics, you are welcome to self-select yourself out of the gene pool at any time.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by unauthorized on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:22PM

    by unauthorized (3776) on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:22PM (#543092)

    Eugenics is the greatest idea humanity should never implement. Although we can accomplish many wonderful things in it, it will be misused by the powers that be with absolute certainty.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:28PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @09:28PM (#543097)

    a little eugenics will do the species no harm.

    Alright. We shall start with those who are promoting eugenics and see how it goes.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @10:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @10:41PM (#543133)

      Modpoints for insightful, my kingdom for modpoints for insightful!

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @07:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @07:54PM (#543447)

      We already have Eugenics. From the Left.

      Many severely mentally disabled people are not allowed to have sex. The mechanism is the Left's favorite tool for prohibition: Consent.

      Since they do not have the ability to consent, they cannot have sex. Not even with someone else who consents, because the mentally disabled person cannot, by definition, consent.

      Now, I happen to somewhat agree with this approach. But lets not kid ourselves. Eugenics is in play, the only question is how far will/can it go.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @01:38AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 23 2017, @01:38AM (#543207)

    The problem is that these aren't necessarily people that have been convicted of committing serious crimes. They're anybody that's sentenced by this judge. I'm guessing that if you look at the sentences he's handing them down, this "shortened" sentence probably will wind up being about what the previous sentence was like, just with the added bonus of sex organ mutilation for the men.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Sunday July 23 2017, @03:17AM (1 child)

    by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Sunday July 23 2017, @03:17AM (#543246)

    >No one is forced to do this

    Did you miss the part where they stay in jail 30 days longer if they refuse than if they accept?

    30 days of jail is coercive. That's why we impose jail sentences, because they're coercive.

    • (Score: 2) by julian on Sunday July 23 2017, @08:13PM

      by julian (6003) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 23 2017, @08:13PM (#543452)

      I don't think that's the right way to look at it.

      They have been convicted of a crime and sentenced to n days in prison. The judge then says, if you get a vasectomy we will make your sentence n-30 days. That's different than the proposition: your sentence is n days, if you *don't* get a vasectomy we will make your sentence n+30 days.

      I don't think this program is a good idea, but it's not bad for the reason you give.

  • (Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Sunday July 23 2017, @03:20AM

    by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Sunday July 23 2017, @03:20AM (#543247)

    >a little eugenics will do the species no harm.

    History disagrees with you.

  • (Score: 2) by driverless on Sunday July 23 2017, @06:27AM

    by driverless (4770) on Sunday July 23 2017, @06:27AM (#543285)

    So the US is going to reintroduce eugenic sterilisation [wikipedia.org]? It's disturbing enough that this was still being done in the 1980s (rather than stopping at Nuremberg in 1946), but now they're reintroducing it?