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posted by n1 on Monday July 24 2017, @11:22AM   Printer-friendly
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Amid relentless scrutiny over possible ties between his presidential campaign and Russia, an extraordinary suggestion has emerged - that Donald Trump could pardon himself or his family.

Source: BBC News

US President Donald Trump has insisted he has the "complete power" to pardon people, amid reports he is considering presidential pardons for family members, aides and even himself.

A Democratic Party spokesman has called the reports "extremely disturbing".

The US authorities are probing possible collusion between the Trump team and Russia. Intelligence agencies think Russia tried to help Mr Trump to power.

Russia denies this, and the president says there was no collusion.

The Washington Post reported on Thursday that Mr Trump and his team were looking at ways to pardon people close to him.

Source: BBC News


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  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday July 24 2017, @12:26PM (7 children)

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday July 24 2017, @12:26PM (#543647) Journal

    A interesting situation can show up if any of Trumps proteges is sued then Trump can sue Hillary for various crimes. Something akin to a Mexican standoff. There's something wrong when he didn't follow through with suing Hillary despite clearly saying he would on election.

    Impeachment will probably self defeat as you suggest. Because then he definitely can swing a damaging accusation of conspiracy and make it stick. Someone could try to take him out, otoh that would likely have repercussions too in a similar way. Mexican standoff #2 ?

    House and Senate are controlled by the president's own party, BUT it can be suspected there's a crack between Trump and the Republican party. How much it would take to break it publicly is the question.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by quacking duck on Monday July 24 2017, @01:45PM (4 children)

    by quacking duck (1395) on Monday July 24 2017, @01:45PM (#543674)

    House and Senate are controlled by the president's own party, BUT it can be suspected there's a crack between Trump and the Republican party. How much it would take to break it publicly is the question.

    Nothing will break it. House and Senate republicans individually might make noises from time to time, but collectively they're all the worst sort of cowards and place party ahead of country.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 24 2017, @02:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 24 2017, @02:53PM (#543712)

      The best outcome may well be to keep them on the throne the full 4 years and give them plenty of sunlight to show them off in all their swampy glory.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Monday July 24 2017, @03:48PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 24 2017, @03:48PM (#543731) Journal

      This may be disclosing a state secret, but here goes. The R in RNC is for Russian.

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    • (Score: 2) by stretch611 on Monday July 24 2017, @10:41PM

      by stretch611 (6199) on Monday July 24 2017, @10:41PM (#543915)

      House and Senate are controlled by the president's own party, BUT it can be suspected there's a crack between Trump and the Republican party. How much it would take to break it publicly is the question.

      Nothing will break it. House and Senate republicans individually might make noises from time to time, but collectively they're all the worst sort of cowards and place party ahead of country.

      Actually, There is one thing that will break party loyalty... Re-election.

      This is why the same congress-critters break party lines. If they are in a district that is not gerrymandered to the point of a guaranteed win, they actually have to care about the opinion of their voters. Self-preservation above all else.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Monday July 24 2017, @02:52PM (1 child)

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday July 24 2017, @02:52PM (#543711)

    A interesting situation can show up if any of Trumps proteges is sued then Trump can sue Hillary for various crimes.

    1. So what? As someone on the left wing of the political spectrum, I consider Hillary Clinton to be completely expendable. Hostage-taking only works if the person making the decisions cares about the well-being of the hostages.

    2. You don't sue for crimes. If there's sufficient evidence that Hillary Clinton committed a crime, she should be arrested and prosecuted, not sued. Lawsuits are for torts, e.g. contract violations or defamation.

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday July 25 2017, @04:02PM

      by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday July 25 2017, @04:02PM (#544200) Journal

      1. Other people in the Democrat-Hillary sphere might consider her worth to keep. Not minding that she can have her own dirty secrets to ensure she's not sacrificed by her own (Hoover style).

      2. Regardless of evidence on Hillary. It doesn't seem far fetched to think it's a tit-for-tat. If no one prosecutes Trump associates, then Hillary won't be prosecuted either kind of deal.