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Amid relentless scrutiny over possible ties between his presidential campaign and Russia, an extraordinary suggestion has emerged - that Donald Trump could pardon himself or his family.
Source: BBC News
US President Donald Trump has insisted he has the "complete power" to pardon people, amid reports he is considering presidential pardons for family members, aides and even himself.
A Democratic Party spokesman has called the reports "extremely disturbing".
The US authorities are probing possible collusion between the Trump team and Russia. Intelligence agencies think Russia tried to help Mr Trump to power.
Russia denies this, and the president says there was no collusion.
The Washington Post reported on Thursday that Mr Trump and his team were looking at ways to pardon people close to him.
Source: BBC News
(Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Monday July 24 2017, @01:12PM (8 children)
Either way, the bit I find more interesting about this is that while there's certainly a lot of smoke being blown by MSM, etc., so far at least there's no real sign of a smoking gun. Trump insists it's all fake news, a witch hunt (and since it is Trump. it's "the greatest witch hunt in history", no less) and they are all totally innocent of any wrong doing, yet seems staunchly opposed to any attempt to discover the truth that would presumably end the matter. Whether that's because he actually has something to hide, because he has no faith in the judicial process or the checks and balances of the country he's leading, or all of the above, it's an ugly situation for any country to be in, and I suspect it's going to get a lot worse before it's over.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Monday July 24 2017, @01:41PM (6 children)
That's a valid fear. We have so many Federal Crimes they can't even be counted, and "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." http://quotationsbook.com/quote/19331/ [quotationsbook.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 24 2017, @02:59PM
Six lines? For some people, half a tweet is enough :)
(Score: 2) by zocalo on Monday July 24 2017, @04:08PM
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 24 2017, @07:02PM
If that really is a valid fear (for him) then why did he swear an oath at his inauguration to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." After all, what exactly is he swearing to defend? Or do you (and he) have some sort of weird notion that the judiciary is not a legitimate part of the federal government? Please note that I am not advocating for blanket approval for everything that the judiciary does; on the other hand, there is a legitimate process for countering judicial abuse, imperfect though it may be.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 25 2017, @03:07AM
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 25 2017, @08:15AM (1 child)
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There's your six lines. Good luck.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday July 25 2017, @05:29PM
I've found something to hang you. It's a rope. :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @03:04AM
In all fairness, it sure did take Obama quite awhile to finally release his birth certificate when Trump was the one banging on the door making accusations of wrongdoing. Now, you could say that this is because the accusations were so outrageous that Obama didn't feel they were worth giving credence to, but then, Trump might make the same claim. And while those on the left would roll their eyes at such a claim, I'm not sure it's that much different than those on the right who rolled their eyes at Obama's claim, believing him actually not to have been native born.
I'm mostly just playing devil's advocate here (I can't say I care much for either of them, even if both have some limited beneficial aspects to tout), but it certainly serves to illustrate the vast divide in the more radical wings of either party. Without some event to tone down the sabre rattling and bring us back to a more diplomatic arena of compromises, I'd almost be surprised if we're not headed to a second civil war.