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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday July 25 2017, @11:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-already-took-the-money dept.

Grekodom reports:

Economy Minister, Dimitris Papadimitriou, signed the new law that allows the voluntary operation of shops on Sundays.

The new law 4427/2017 allows for retail stores in central Athens, Thessaloniki, and tourist areas to be open on Sundays for six months of the year during tourist season. The opening of retail stores on Sundays is a prerequisite of Greece's bailout program.

The Federation of Private Sector Employees has called a 24-hour strike to protest the decision while the Hellenic Confederation of Commerce and Entrepreneurship (ESEE) said it will appeal it to the Council of State. 

The ministerial decision determines, in great detail, specific areas where the shops can open on Sundays.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by jmorris on Wednesday July 26 2017, @01:33AM (10 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday July 26 2017, @01:33AM (#544411)

    It is stupidity all the way up and down. Back in the day, we had two major grocery stores in town. They would "collude" and one would open in the morning on Thanksgiving and the other would cover Christmas. Very few large tickets, lots of one or two item ones. So people who had forgotten something still had a way to get their stuff, only a few people had to go to work, you got paid overtime for it and got off in time to go home and still enjoy the holiday. Now of course they would all get charged for the "collusion" Not that it matters because now it is only WalMart and they are open 24/7/364. Everybody loses.

    Retailers couldn't even get together and save Black Friday. One opened on Thanksgiving so now they all do. Since all the best deals are now on Thanksgiving I don't bother. Everybody loses. Collusion isn't always a bad thing.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @09:31AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @09:31AM (#544555)

    Everybody loses, except the customer. Who can now shop 24/7/365. Sorry that's how capitalism works. The customer, is literally, King.

    • (Score: 2) by pgc on Wednesday July 26 2017, @11:34AM

      by pgc (1600) on Wednesday July 26 2017, @11:34AM (#544590)

      The customer, who in turn is an employee as well, loses just the same.

      The only winners are the business owners.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @11:43AM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @11:43AM (#544596)

      That is a MARKET.
      Markets exist outside of Capitalism.

      Another word that fits is BUSINESS.

      Capitalism is an ownership model, BTW.

      ...and there's no reason that a (Socialist) worker-owned cooperative couldn't do the same thing.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 2) by turgid on Wednesday July 26 2017, @02:13PM (6 children)

        by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 26 2017, @02:13PM (#544641) Journal

        ...and there's no reason that a (Socialist) worker-owned cooperative couldn't do the same thing.

        The reason is that dirty word "socialist." It's been so misused you can't communicate using it any more.

        • (Score: 2) by FakeBeldin on Wednesday July 26 2017, @04:32PM (5 children)

          by FakeBeldin (3360) on Wednesday July 26 2017, @04:32PM (#544717) Journal

          The reason is that dirty word "socialist." It's been so misused you can't communicate using it any more.

          That only applies to USA'ians. Around here, socialist doesn't have dirty overtones, it has overtones of caring for others.

          Then again, maybe that's considered a Very Bad Thing in the states.

          • (Score: 2) by turgid on Wednesday July 26 2017, @04:53PM (1 child)

            by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 26 2017, @04:53PM (#544736) Journal

            It's going that way here in the UK too. It's why we got Brexit [theguardian.com]. I think the idea is that each work-producing unit (human being) should be a net positive financial contributor to the economy or is waste (a Useless Eater). It's why we no longer pay the disabled, old, sick and young enough to eat properly or to have adequate shelter, and the economy is rigged to ensure that as much wealth as possible flows into the hands of the buisiness owners [theguardian.com] and land owners [theguardian.com].

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @06:53PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 26 2017, @06:53PM (#544797)

            ...and that's NOT Socialism.

            Here's Socialism:
            The collective ownership of the means of production by The Workers.

            What you are describing is LIBERAL DEMOCRACY (when that is being done properly).
            Sometimes that is called "Social Democracy" and that causes some people to get confused about terminology.
            (In some places, it's called "Christian Democracy".)

            -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

            • (Score: 2) by FakeBeldin on Wednesday July 26 2017, @07:20PM (1 child)

              by FakeBeldin (3360) on Wednesday July 26 2017, @07:20PM (#544812) Journal

              Dude, seriously?

              First of all: Communism [wikipedia.org]

              In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal") is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state.

              You've been indoctrinated so much you cannot tell socialism from communism.

              For reference, socialism:

              Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production, [...] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity. There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them. Social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.

              Second of all: as I said, over here, socialism carries overtones of caring for others.
              Apparently, in your neck of the woods the word "socialism" just another way of describing communism.

              Just another example of being separated by a common language [tvtropes.org].

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:52AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:52AM (#544957)

                Communism [wikipedia.org]

                As far as that blurb goes, it's OK.
                It doesn't, however, mention the precursors (called out by Marx).
                That would be Democracy and Socialism.
                Socialism is an in-the-workplace thing.

                Communism is communal ownership expanded to the society (e.g. ownership of natural monopolies).

                ...and both are bottom-up systems (so Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc. are NOT examples of either.)

                you cannot tell socialism from communism

                Actually, it's you that has the problem.
                Again, Marx defined these terms.

                For reference, socialism:

                Ah. Wikipedia again.

                I've critiqued that page previously. [soylentnews.org]
                It wanders all over the place with a lot of (erroneous) opinions and squishy language.
                It is NOT a useful source of information.

                over here

                Over there, the people who actually know what they're talking about refer to what you are pointing to as LIBERAL DEMOCRACY controlled by OLIGARCHS.

                It sounds like the talking heads on your Lamestream Media aren't any better than ours.
                I suggest that you find better sources.

                The source of information which I find most useful is Professor of Economics Richard D. Wolff. [kpfa.org]

                -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]