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posted by martyb on Thursday July 27 2017, @07:28AM   Printer-friendly
from the call-a-spade-a-spade dept.

Common Dreams reports

As President Donald Trump continues to behave bizarrely and erratically--attacking his own attorney general, launching into a political tirade during a speech to Boy Scouts, bringing his 11-year-old son into the burgeoning Russia controversy--a professional association of psychoanalysts is telling its members to drop the so-called Goldwater Rule and comment publicly on the president's state of mind if they find reason to do so.

The Goldwater Rule was formally included in the American Psychiatric Association's "Principles of Medical Ethics" following the 1964 presidential campaign, during which a magazine editor was sued for running an article in which mental health professionals gave their opinions on [Republican] presidential candidate Barry Goldwater's psychiatric state. The rule deems public comments by psychiatrists on the mental health of public officials without consent "unethical".

In a recent email to its 3,500 members, the American Psychoanalytic Association "told its members they should not feel bound by" the Goldwater Rule, which some have characterized as a "gag rule", STAT's Sharon Begley reports.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by VLM on Thursday July 27 2017, @12:36PM (14 children)

    by VLM (445) on Thursday July 27 2017, @12:36PM (#545128)

    Its simpler than that. Why do all the mainstream journalists hate Trump? Because he's in the "R" group and they're almost all in the "D" group and its middle school sociology hate of the outgroup. They hate Trump viciously because he eats at the wrong lunchroom table, nothing more. If he "came out" as a D party member they'd love him as much as Hillary right now.

    Likewise take one guess about political distribution among shrinks... Given the headline above you get one, exactly one guess.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/upshot/your-surgeon-is-probably-a-republican-your-psychiatrist-probably-a-democrat.html [nytimes.com]

    Oh fall out of my chair surprised, ridiculous propagandistic soviet-era-style anti-trump rants from a group that's 76% democrat party membership. Next thing you tell me will probably be its a shocking little known scandal that illegal aliens don't like Trump very much LOL. Let me take another wild guess, public school teacher union membership doesn't like Trump either, is it because they're "so smart" or because they're over 95% D party members?

    The progs should watch out. As America steadily becomes more Soviet and makes any opposition to political progressivism an economic death penalty (check) or a mental illness (now, check) or a crime (in some cases, check), note that Stalin who was theoretically a prog, killed lots of progs. Progs need to consider that the non-progressives having been sent to the same death camp as you are, will be little comfort as you die. History shows the death machine has a start button thats easy to hit, and there's a lot of leftists scrambling to hit it ASAP before the pendulum violently swings out of their grasp, but they really need to consider is the stop button is not nearly as easy to hit.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:02PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:02PM (#545143)

    Why do all the mainstream journalists hate Trump? Because he's in the "R" group and they're almost all in the "D" group and its middle school sociology hate of the outgroup.

    Indeed, why do they dislike him? When someone keeps calling me fake, overrated, lamestream, enemy of the people, threatens to sue me, etc., every single day, I know I should start singing praises of that person. I do not understand this hostility by the press. What did Trump ever do to provoke it? I can't think of a single thing.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:06PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:06PM (#545144)

      He probably grabbed them by the truth. ;-)

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:07PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:07PM (#545174) Journal

        That post reminds me of those old candy bar commercials - sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. The post is informative, while being outrageously funny. I'll take a carton, to nibble on for the next few weeks.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:25PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:25PM (#545180) Journal

        Here's today's truth nugget [cnn.com] from the Trump inner circle:

        After Politico published a story about how the he continues to profit from the sale of his hedge fund SkyBridge Capital, Scaramucci slammed the leak of his Office of Government Ethics forms.

        "In light of the leak of my financial disclosure info which is a felony. I will be contacting @FBI and the @TheJusticeDept, he tweeted Wednesday night, adding, "#swamp @Reince45."

        The inclusion of Reince in the tweet was seen by some as an accusation.

        The financial disclosure forms, however, are publicly available, notes the Politico report, which links to them [politico.com]. CNN has not independently obtained the disclosure form.

        With just a hint of purge.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by unauthorized on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:29PM (2 children)

      by unauthorized (3776) on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:29PM (#545182)

      Indeed, why do they dislike him? When someone keeps calling me fake, overrated, lamestream, enemy of the people, threatens to sue me, etc., every single day, I know I should start singing praises of that person. I do not understand this hostility by the press. What did Trump ever do to provoke it? I can't think of a single thing.

      I'm not even American and even I know that this is a war that the so-called liberal press started. He didn't start lambasting the press for months of extremely negative coverage filled with what any skeptically minded person would rightfully classify as dishonest horseshit.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:53PM (#545230)

        Trump IS dishonest horseshit. If the shoe fits :/ If you haven't figured that part out yet then you fall under a quite limited array of descriptors, none of them good.

      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday July 30 2017, @08:48PM

        by kaszz (4211) on Sunday July 30 2017, @08:48PM (#546814) Journal

        I doubt it's about the press really. They are just one front. There's a lot more sinister going on in the background.
        Now the press is a complete trainwreck being a oligopoly in America and quite conformist and clueless. But that is nothing new. Just try to find any accurate reporting on computer technology ;) So this has been going on for decades. But they are now being used as a explicit and synchronized attack dog. It just screams something-is-wrong-mark-me-faulty.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @09:36PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @09:36PM (#545458)

      The greatest power that the media has is its willingness to IGNORE a story.

      Stories that interest me, which I can read in alt-media, don't make it into Lamestream Media.

      These are typically items that are Science-based or would reveal people-unfriendly gov't actions.
      The usual suspects don't want to lose their "access" to USA.gov, so they won't cover stories that cast the Oligarchy in a negative light.
      In particular, PROTESTS against gov't and corporation don't get covered.

      Items that are critical of corporations' malfeasance are avoided.
      (For-profit media doesn't want to lose the advertising revenue from those corporations, so they won't cast them in a bad light.)

      By the time ATSC had replaced NTSC in 2009, I had determined that it wasn't worthwhile to invest in any new TeeVee equipment.
      Media consolidation (Reaganomics) and media's increasingly mercenary ethos had put me off of what they were offering.

      I heard a statistic that there was just 15 minutes of airtime on TeeVee last year on the topic of Global Warming.
      That's not per-outlet; that's the entirety of TeeVee.

      This is why I use the term "Lamestream Media".

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @09:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @09:55PM (#545471)

        I agree, 15 minutes is FAR TOO MUCH. I read a tweet that said it was a Chinese hoax. That settles it.

      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday July 30 2017, @08:51PM

        by kaszz (4211) on Sunday July 30 2017, @08:51PM (#546815) Journal

        Just had a funny idea.. The broadcast spectrum is limited. So let the public vote for which channels or networks that will get new permits to use the spectrum or slot in a mux-stream. That should keep them on their toes. And the radio spectrum IS a commons.

  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:50PM (1 child)

    by Arik (4543) on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:50PM (#545194) Journal
    You're *almost* right, but there's more to it.

    They are Ds and they were never fans of Rs, that much is true.

    But the level of hatred, of vitriol, the way that standards of reporting haven't just been bent occasionally but rather thrown aside entirely in response to Trump, is something quite different from the way they've treated Rs in the past.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by http on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:08PM

      by http (1920) on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:08PM (#545204)

      In all fairness, Trump is only an R of convenience, so different treatment scans as consistent.

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  • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:47PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:47PM (#545222)

    Hehehe, never an original thought from you crazy Nazis. Just pull the latest news article, the latest radio talk buzzwords and insults, slap on some patented stupidity and you've got a post worthy of being downmodded!

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday July 27 2017, @10:35PM

      by VLM (445) on Thursday July 27 2017, @10:35PM (#545494)

      Thats what passes for journalism today