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posted by takyon on Wednesday August 16 2017, @05:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the pressure-relief dept.

Following a number of CEOs pulling out of President Trump's American Manufacturing Council and Strategic and Policy Forum, President Trump tweeted that the initiatives have been ended:

Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!

The CEOs of Merck, Intel, 3M, and other companies had already left:

3M Co. Chief Executive Officer Inge Thulin stepped down from the White House's manufacturing council, adding to the corporate exodus as the backlash grows to President Donald Trump's ambivalent response to racially-charged violence in Virginia over the weekend.

Thulin joined the White House panel in January "to advocate for policies that align with our values and encourage even stronger investment and job growth -- in order to make the United States stronger, healthier and more prosperous," the CEO said Wednesday in a statement tweeted by 3M. "After careful consideration, I believe the initiative is no longer an effective vehicle for 3M to advance these goals."

Update: The members of the Strategic and Policy Forum reportedly disbanded the group before President Trump's tweet:

The quick sequence began late Wednesday morning when Stephen A. Schwarzman, the chief executive of the Blackstone Group and one of Mr. Trump's closest confidants in the business community, organized a conference call for members of the president's Strategic and Policy Forum. On the call, the chief executives of some of the largest companies in the country debated how to proceed. After a discussion among a dozen prominent C.E.O.s, the decision was made to abandon the group altogether, said people with knowledge of the details of the call.

Also at Bloomberg:

Trump made the announcement on Twitter, less than an hour after one of the groups was said to be planning to inform the White House that it would break up. [...] Trump appeared to be making an effort to get ahead of the news as the councils began to disintegrate. The strategy forum, which is led by Blackstone Group LP's Stephen Schwarzman, planned to inform the White House Wednesday before making the announcement public, according to another person familiar with the matter, who wasn't authorized to discuss the news publicly.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:02PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:02PM (#554821)

    Pretty sure you don't want to see a system where the first reply gets to stay at the top.

    Personally I would like for social media systems to be 100% transparent about their algorithms. Decentralized and encrypted fully open source systems are the only way forward!

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:47PM (5 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:47PM (#554853) Homepage Journal

    You're aware you just posted that on a site that arranges comments and replies oldest-first by default, yes?

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:54PM (2 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:54PM (#554860)

      Oldest-first works here, but not in EgoLand, and especially not for high-profile people who have lots of rabid haters and fans.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:56PM (1 child)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday August 16 2017, @06:56PM (#554862) Homepage Journal

        Maybe they should try it then.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 16 2017, @08:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 16 2017, @08:31PM (#554920)

          No, they shouldn't. It only works with a manageable number of comments, when you pass the thousands mark it becomes unwieldy

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 16 2017, @09:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 16 2017, @09:47PM (#554975)

      I'm not the GP, but the problem is different because here I expect to read all of the comments. Oldest first order makes it easier to follow the discussion. And, importantly, it's just the default, I know exactly what algorithm is being used to order the comments and can choose a different one. On a Twitter post with 10s of thousands of replies, it's not feasible to read all of them, so some prioritization has to be made, and how exactly that is done may greatly change what the conversation looks like.

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday August 16 2017, @10:20PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 16 2017, @10:20PM (#554995) Journal

      Doesn't that depend on how you have your options specified. It's true, I have mine set at both threaded and oldest first...but I don't believe those are the only choices.

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  • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday August 17 2017, @09:36AM

    by Wootery (2341) on Thursday August 17 2017, @09:36AM (#555199)

    you don't want to see a system where the first reply gets to stay at the top

    Like this site?