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An 18-year-old Hungarian man was taken into custody after reporting one of the numerous bugs in the Budapest Transport Authority's site. He found the bug by using the "view source" feature of his browser. He then bought a ticket at much less than its usual price, and reported the problem to the transit authority without using the ticket.
Bleeping Computer has a translation of a message from the arrestee:
I am an 18-year-old, now middle school graduate. Perhaps that which differs from the average, is that I trust that I can help solve a mistake.
I discovered last Friday [2017-07-22] that I could take a monthly ticket for 50 for the new internet e-ticket system in BKK, and then informed them about two minutes later. I did not use the ticket, I do not even live near Budapest, I never traveled on a BKK route. My goal was just to signal the error to the BKK in order to solve it and not to use it (for example, to sell the tickets at a half price for their own benefit).
The BKK has not been able to answer me for four days, but in their press conference today they said it was a cyber attack and was reported. I found an amateur bug that could be exploited by many people - no one seriously thinks an 18-year-old kid would have played a serious security system and wanted to commit a crime by promptly telling the authorities.
I am convinced that if I do not speak about the error, I will not report it. My hire was canceled only after I sent my letter to them.
I would like to publish this post without my name and identity. I ask you to help by sharing this entry with your acquaintances so that the BKK will come to a better understanding and see if my purpose is merely a helper intention, I have not harmed or wanted to harm them in any way. I hope that in this case the BKK will consider withdrawing the report
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @12:42AM (6 children)
I know this is way off topic, but of course I feel the need to respond...
You are taking the norm here and overgeneralizing it. It is absolutely not true that 100% of born-female individuals are nontechnical and lack the drive to independently learn how things work in a deep way (that seems to be what you are getting at?). I have counterexamples, individuals of this class who are genuinely technical and driven to learn and would happily configure and build their own operating system, or delve into a complex system interaction problem, or engineer and build a clever new physical machine.
I will grant you that it is not common. However, speaking as if it doesn't exist is not fair and not accurate.
Hell, some of us are even libertarians who seek to prioritize each individual's ability to lead their own life without interference from budybodies (government or otherwise). That doesn't jive with the stereotype either.
Yes, some born-females are independent thinkers. Sorry.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @12:44AM
s/budybodies/busybodies
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 18 2017, @02:54AM (4 children)
I don't see how feminism is in any way compatible with libertarianism. The support feminism has for big government interference in trans folks' lives is disgusting, simply from the principle that once you establish a precedent that government can control people's bodies and sex lives simply for being nonconforming, what other ways is government going to decide to control people's bodies and sex lives? How does a law requiring a minimum breast size of D-cup sound, besides hyperbolic, as some kind of pedophilia eradication initiative? Think of the children! Works every time, as I'm sure any libertarian is used to watching in dismay.
So that's great that you're a free and independent thinker. That would seem to exclude you from feminism.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @03:33AM (3 children)
Perhaps, and that depends on how you define "feminism"*. However, for the purposes of this discussion, what I was objecting to was equating "feminism" with "all (cis)women".
*I would say I am a "feminist" but my definition of it would require blind equality of opportunity and treatment for all individuals rather than equality of outcomes or blaming of specific groups. In my view, scapegoating whole groups of individuals based on general factors is an evil way of thinking which is dangerous for human society. That goes the same for if the scapegoat class is "men", "(cis)women", "jews", whatever. It is the same type of thinking regardless of the target.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @04:01AM (2 children)
Allow me to clarify my alternate definition of "feminism" as well:
My mom is a feminist. When she got her first job out of university, it was a job that had never been done by a woman before. When she went to the bank to open an account to deposit her paycheck, they told her she could not do so without the permission of her husband. All banks in the area had a similar policy. She had to resort to legal threats to get them to open the account, and even then "their system" "did not allow" this type of setup.
The Social Security Administration had the same "system" problem as well. When she made money, they assigned her income to her husband even though he was not earning income at the time. Even today it is a legal battle to get those paid taxes correctly assigned. Their system was simply not set up to allow this circumstance.
These types of "systems" were prevalent into the 1980s.
She considers herself a proud feminist. To her, it means a rejection of this type of discrimination; that each person should be treated as an individual without assumptions based on their gender.
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 18 2017, @01:24PM (1 child)
Right. I'm sure the discrimination your mother faced excuses the discrimination I've faced. Try again. Two wrongs don't make a right. You seriously don't think I've faced shit like that before? Yeah, and I'm sure I just deserve to face retribution for what happened to your mother, because I was assigned to the male gender caste at birth, and that makes me, along will every other assigned male on the planet, collectively and severally accountable for that shit.
But maybe three wrongs can make a right! I have a suggestion. Perhaps any time a cisgendered woman wants to open a bank account without her husband's permission, let's require her to begin undergoing testosterone HRT.
See, this is how it is. When the gender caste system that's a fundamental part of feminism doesn't work out well for cisgendered women, we have to change the caste system. When it doesn't work out well for any other demographic, feminists just hurl insults. If you're a csigendered man, now you're sexually frustrated! It never occurs once to a feminist that cisgendered men can be homosexual, as in they have absolutely no fucking goddamned interest in your fucking bodies! If you're a trans man, you're a traitor. You're confused. You've been recruited. So, the feminist then must needs seek out the person who “recruited” and corrupted the trans man. If you're a trans woman, you're mentally ill. You're “gender confused.” Not only that, but if you're a trans woman, you're Schrödinger's rapist gone fucking super saiyan!
Would feminism have revoked my regular doctor privileges if I were a complacent, docile assigned male and good little sex object to a womyn-born-womyn? If I had the permission of my girlfriend, then would feminism be ok with my doctor prescribing meds to me that feminism believes should be illegal to give to anybody who is not a womyn-born-womyn?
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @10:49PM
Perhaps you misunderstand. What I was saying was that there are people who consider themselves "feminists" who aren't about blaming someone. There are people who consider themselves "feminists" who do not want any caste system. And your birth gender (and chosen gender) is your business not mine and should have no effect on your treatment by society.
Neither my mom nor I consider any group to be the enemy, the purpose of the story was to describe the things that we are against. If crap like that happens to you, we are against that too.
I understand that this may differ significantly from the attitude of others who call themselves "feminists", especially in academia. I understand there are people who, instead of ending abuses, want to switch from being the abused to the abuser. Everyone does not think like that.