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posted by mrpg on Friday August 18 2017, @12:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the color-me...-anything dept.

Over at StatNews is a story on a recent trend where low cost commercial DNA testing is resulting in a number of White Nationalists taking genetic tests, and sometimes they don't like the results that come back.

The article looks at research on how they respond to the sometimes unexpected results:

[...] In a new study, sociologists Aaron Panofsky and Joan Donovan examined years' worth of posts on Stormfront to see how members dealt with the news.

[...] About a third of the people posting their results were pleased with what they found. "Pretty damn pure blood," said a user with the username Sloth. But the majority didn't find themselves in that situation. Instead, the community often helped them reject the test, or argue with its results.

Some rejected the tests entirely, saying that an individual's knowledge about his or her own genealogy is better than whatever a genetic test can reveal. [...] Others, he said, responded to unwanted genetic results by saying that those kinds of tests don't matter if you are truly committed to being a white nationalist. Yet others tried to discredit the genetic tests as a Jewish conspiracy "that is trying to confuse true white Americans about their ancestry," Panofsky said.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @04:10PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @04:10PM (#555948)

    You assumed that the white nationalists got some kind of intelligence. The truth is that they are the dumbest of the people. This is why they believe the stupid propaganda they are spreading. An intelligent person would not believe their bullshit. So, fools they are on all levels.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 18 2017, @04:25PM (8 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday August 18 2017, @04:25PM (#555961) Journal

    Their problem is low WIS more than low INT. I've actually seen some very, very intelligent alt-right types, like Steve Bannon. The man's mind is brilliant, but to borrow from Pterry, it's a broken, crazed, fractured brilliance, like a shattered mirror in pieces on the ground.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Friday August 18 2017, @05:47PM (7 children)

      by edIII (791) on Friday August 18 2017, @05:47PM (#555996)

      No. WIS comes from experience ultimately. You can have very conniving and smart White Supremacists like Bannon. Which, at this point, let's drop the fucking pretense. It's not White Nationalists anymore, but White Supremacists, and all about the fear of White Culture losing power. Which could very well lead one to conclude that they are stupid, and certainly easy to tack on a lack of wisdom. However, it's not about either. Alignment is where they've gone wrong. Chaotic Evil or Ordered Evil. That's their problem.

      They're nothing but trolls, literally, with black hearts filled with hate for anything not them.

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 18 2017, @06:19PM (6 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday August 18 2017, @06:19PM (#556011) Journal

        I'd have to agree there. I'm a very strong Neutral Good temperament, and my type hates Lawful Evil above all else for what ought to be obvious reasons. The purpose of Law is to show the Good for those who lack the willpower, intelligence, or character to do it themselves, so those who pervert the Law are my mortal enemies.

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        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @10:09PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @10:09PM (#556145)

          Hate to break it to you, but you might, just MIGHT be a nerd.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 19 2017, @01:17AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 19 2017, @01:17AM (#556227) Journal

            Oh hell yes I'm a nerd. I've spent the last almost quarter-century dirty to the elbows inside computers. That's longer than some marriages last.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @03:30AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @03:30AM (#556258)

            Guilty and proud of being a <blink>NERD</blink>.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @04:25AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @04:25AM (#556262)

          I'd have to agree there. I'm a very strong Neutral Good temperament, and my type hates Lawful Evil above all else for what ought to be obvious reasons. The purpose of Law is to show the Good for those who lack the willpower, intelligence, or character to do it themselves, so those who pervert the Law are my mortal enemies.

          Lawful, Good, Evil?

          I will remind you that all these concepts are at best relative, at worst exceedingly nebulous and, irrespective, at all times subject to change, humans being such 'fickle' creatures.

          'Your 'Good' may not be my 'Good' but my 'Evil' and vice-versa. Your 'Good' today, may not be the same as your 'Good' yesterday, or a week's time, I can tell you from experience that my current ideas of 'Good' as someone in my mid-50s are radically different from my ideas of what I thought constituted 'Good' as a teenager.

          As to Law, I must take issue with

          'The purpose of Law is to show the Good for those who lack the willpower..etc. etc'

          No, that is your somewhat personal naive idealisation, 'Law' as implemented by legal systems around the world has absolutely nothing to do with any of these concepts, spend some time at 'the wrong end' of it some time, you'll discover that the instruments of your 'Law' care not how 'Good', or 'intelligent' you are, 'Law' is a juggernaut cobbled together by committee which doesn't give one flying fuck about these 'qualities' you mention and will especially flatten you if you get in its path and try relying on them as a defence.

          And, sorry to say, this 'Law' designed to control the masses trumps your personal 'Law'.

          ..so those who pervert the Law are my mortal enemies

          Here's a couple of things, what passes for the 'Real' world isn't a fantasy novel and you are not some sort of knight in shining armour, please bear these in mind when you finally do 'venture forth' out there.

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          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @09:25AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @09:25AM (#556314)

            Lawful, Good, Evil?

            I will remind you that all these concepts are at best relative,

            NO, you will not. Do not you think we are already familiar with all the alt-right rhetoric, and have not stuck up back up their own anuses? Do you knot gnow that in order for a concept to be relative, it must be relative to some fixed point, that by definition is not relative? Or did you gnot know that figs grow on fig trees, and that these figs are in fact the sexual organs of these trees, and when you ingest these figs, your excrement serves the purpose of the fig tree, not you or your sorry outlaw gang of autoeroticism wankers? Think before you dump, would this be a good place for a fig tree?

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 19 2017, @03:44PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 19 2017, @03:44PM (#556380) Journal

            You're taking this, er...a wee too seriously, dude. And most of what else you say is pretty far off the mark too; i know moral realism is passe these days, but I do believe I've found a plausible supporting framework for it. And no, it doesn't imply moral Platonism, or even deontology.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @06:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @06:26PM (#556017)

    Perhaps it's the inbreeding
        Gotta stay white somehow.