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Over at StatNews is a story on a recent trend where low cost commercial DNA testing is resulting in a number of White Nationalists taking genetic tests, and sometimes they don't like the results that come back.
The article looks at research on how they respond to the sometimes unexpected results:
[...] In a new study, sociologists Aaron Panofsky and Joan Donovan examined years' worth of posts on Stormfront to see how members dealt with the news.
[...] About a third of the people posting their results were pleased with what they found. "Pretty damn pure blood," said a user with the username Sloth. But the majority didn't find themselves in that situation. Instead, the community often helped them reject the test, or argue with its results.
Some rejected the tests entirely, saying that an individual's knowledge about his or her own genealogy is better than whatever a genetic test can reveal. [...] Others, he said, responded to unwanted genetic results by saying that those kinds of tests don't matter if you are truly committed to being a white nationalist. Yet others tried to discredit the genetic tests as a Jewish conspiracy "that is trying to confuse true white Americans about their ancestry," Panofsky said.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by meustrus on Friday August 18 2017, @06:02PM (6 children)
White nationalists have always expected - and received - special treatment from the government. Look at what the police did in Charlottesville: total hands off approach. Compare that to the history of virtually every left-wing protest over the last 70 years.
A huge part of this is the part of their ideology that is based in fact: white people are the ones in power. This is of course something we all agree upon (and disagree as to whether that's a good thing). And its impact is pretty plain: white people protesting in support of white issues enjoy a level of protection jarringly different from everyone else. The feds aren't exactly inventing the SWAT team to illegally assassinate the leader of the KKK the way they murdered the leader of the Black Panthers.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @06:53PM (1 child)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nazi apologists who try and whitewash (haha) the issue often have zero clue about how abusive the government has been, and how much special treatment they are receiving for being white. Racist militias are allowed to exist without problem, but the Black Panthers were harassed by the highest levels of federal gov. For fucks sake we've got Nixon and one of his compatriots flat out admitting they pushed policies as part of a race/culture war!!!
We must address this underlying issue, it is a lot bigger than people think and not limited to a few thousand crazy nazi fuckers. It extends outward in a massive black cloud that slowly fades into clear skies, those stuck in the foggy boundary areas are the "states rights!" apologists. Plenty of state's rights people are not racist, but there is a good deal of overlap between the two groups.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 18 2017, @11:52PM
If you ever should want a clue, I'd start with finding out when those events happened in. For example, slavery was ended a bit over 150 years ago. The Black Panthers' issues with unjust law enforcement harassment really were from 40-50 years as was the terms of Nixon. It's either clueless or dishonest to pretend that nothing has changed since.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by number6x on Friday August 18 2017, @08:51PM (3 children)
two points you might find interesting...
1) Had a dog. He was all white. I named him Newton. Only one neighbor caught on and used to call the dog "Huey P."
2) "over the last 70 years"... Greater than 70 years. Haymarket square was May 1st, 1886. It is now strongly suspected that it was the cops who threw the bombs.
(In 1886 Chicago, 'cops' weren't really what you think of as police today. Most were more like hired thugs who worked for local political bosses. The communist holiday of May Day is in memory of the Haymarket square event.)
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @10:27PM
Actually, the proper characterization would be "workers' holiday".
...and, unless my knowledge base is lacking, it's only the USA that doesn't have parades and such on that day.
USA.gov, instead, came up with Labor Day (in September) where the parades have military men and equipment, celebrating Imperialism and Capitalism (bosses), apparently.
...and, under the heading of songs you -won't- hear on "Labor" Day, there's "Which Side Are You On?" and "Joe Hill", among others. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [latimes.com]
Noting here that FDR was often called a Socialist (though he was VERY MUCH Pro-Capitalist and, in fact, saved Capitalism), there's Ain't Done Nothin' If You Ain't Been Called A Red [google.com]
...and, under the heading of topics you -won't- hear on "Labor" Day, there's reclaiming The Wagner Act (The National Labor Relations Act of 1935)--which was gutted by Repugs and Dumbocrats in 1947 via Taft-Hartley, among a number of topics. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [counterpunch.org]
You won't hear how Organized Labor could get back its mojo through outreach. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [counterpunch.org]
You especially won't hear how, without unions, wages would plummet. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [counterpunch.org]
(Free-Riders take note.)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @12:44AM (1 child)
No, that's exactly how I think of the police today.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 19 2017, @04:34AM
Aye, I think maybe, just maybe, he was being a wee bit sarcastic there...