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posted by martyb on Saturday August 19 2017, @04:13PM   Printer-friendly

A basic right in the U.S.A. has been the Freedom of Speech, yet of late it has been under heavy threat. United States Foreign Service Officer (ret.) and author of Hooper's War Peter Van Buren at We Meant Well blogs about Five Bad Arguments to Restrict Speech.

"Open discussion, debate, and argument are the core of democracy. Bad ideas are defeated by good ideas. Fascism seeks to close off all ideas except its own."

The blog entry itself is rather long and contains numerous links to supporting material. Here is the list; below the fold includes an elaboration on the statement and a summary. Read the blog itself for more details and exposition.

  1. The First Amendment Only Applies to Government?
  2. What's Said May Provoke Violence in the Room (A Clear and Present Danger)
  3. What's Said May Provoke Violence Outside (Public Safety)
  4. Speech Can or Should Be Restricted Based on Content (Hate Speech)
  5. Free Speech Should Not Be Subject to the Heckler's Veto

[...] 1. The First Amendment Only Applies to Government?

The first fallacious argument used to shut down free speech is that the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights in our Constitution only applies to government, and so universities or other entities are entitled to censor, restrict or shut down altogether speech willy-nilly.

Short Answer: Not really. Public funding invokes the First Amendment for schools, and free speech runs deeper than the Bill of Rights. It's as much a philosophical argument as a legal one, not a bad thing for a nation founded on a set of ideas (and ideals.)

[...] 2. What's Said May Provoke Violence in the Room (A Clear and Present Danger)

Some claim that certain conservative speakers, such as Milo Yiannopoulos, who purposefully use anti-LGBTQ slurs to provoke their audiences, should be banned or shut down. Their speech is the equivalent of yelling Fire! in a crowded movie theatre when there is no actual danger, provoking a deadly stampede for the exits.

Short Answer: The standards for shutting down speech are very restrictive, and well-codified. Milo comes nowhere close.

[...] 3. What's Said May Provoke Violence Outside (Public Safety)

The idea that a university or other venue cannot assure a speaker's safety, or that the speaker's presence may provoke violent protests, or that the institution just doesn't want to go to the trouble or expense of protecting a controversial speaker has become the go-to justification for canceling or restricting speech. Berkley cited this in canceling and then de-platforming (rescheduling her when most students would not be on campus) Ann Coulter, whose campus sponsors are now suing, and New York University cited the same justification for canceling an appearance by Milo Yiannopoulos.

Short Answer: Canceling a speaker to protect them or public safety is the absolute last resort, and some risk to safety is part of the cost to a free society for unfettered speech.

[...] 4. Speech Can or Should Be Restricted Based on Content (Hate Speech)

There are no laws against "hate speech." A speaker can call people names, and insult them by their race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs. What many people think and say is hateful. It is carefully thought out to inspire hate, to promote hate, to appeal to crude and base instincts. Indeed, that is their point. But there is no law or other prohibition against hate speech. Even restrictions on "hate speech" meant to prevent violence, often cited as the justification to restrict such speech, are by design extremely narrow.

Short Answer: You cannot restrict hate speech. Free speech means just that, with any limited restrictions content-neutral.

[...] 5. Free Speech Should Not Be Subject to the Heckler's Veto

Another argument used by some progressives is that the so-called Heckler's Veto is in itself protected speech. Someone may have a right to speak, but someone else has the same right to shout them down and prevent them from being heard.

Short answer: Free speech is not intended to mean whomever can literally "speak" the loudest gets to control what is said. The natural end of such thinking is mob rule, where Speaker A gets a bigger gang together to shout down the gang Speaker B controls.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Joe Desertrat on Saturday August 19 2017, @11:04PM (3 children)

    by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Saturday August 19 2017, @11:04PM (#556515)

    Mostly because not many organizations have been shutting down Islamic Extremist speech compared to shutting down any speech right of center in the US.

    I still see a whole lot more speech from the extreme right, let alone just "right of center", than I ever saw of Islamic extremist speech. You have to dig pretty deep outside of normal channels to see any Islamic extremist speech, while it is hard to wander any thread on YouTube for instance, without seeing the like of Alex Jones or such popping up in the recommended videos list. There sure as hell are not any radio stations in the US playing syndicated shows from any Islamic extremists, yet it is hard to turn on a radio and avoid those right wing hate mongers like Jones, or Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday August 20 2017, @02:01AM

    By normal channels you mean "places I hang out". To this I say: well no shit. Radicalized Muslims generally are going to be speaking something other than English. You're not going to be following anyone who's not speaking English, thus you're not going to hear much of anything from them. Even the ones who do speak English aren't going to be talking to you unless you're a radicalized Muslim. They have nothing to say to you except "die infidel pig".

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 20 2017, @03:37PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 20 2017, @03:37PM (#556698)

    Don't forget the power dynamic going on here as well. Islamic Extemists are a minority here wielding no actual political clout. The far from center right holds many political positions at local, state, and federal levels.