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posted by takyon on Monday August 21 2017, @03:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the kaby-fake dept.

The first "8th generation" Intel Core processors roll out today: a quartet of 15W U-series mobile processors. Prior generation U-series parts have had two cores, four threads; these new chips double that to four cores and eight threads. They also bump up the maximum clock speed to as much as 4.2GHz, though the base clock speed is sharply down at 1.9GHz for the top end part (compared to the 7th generation's 2.8GHz). But beyond those changes, there's little to say about the new chips, because in a lot of ways, the new chips aren't really new.

Although Intel is calling these parts "8th generation," their architecture, both for their CPU and their integrated GPU, is the same as "7th generation" Kaby Lake. In fact, Intel calls the architecture of these chips "Kaby Lake refresh." Kaby Lake was itself a minor update on Skylake, adding an improved GPU (with, for example, hardware-accelerated support for 4K H.265 video) and a clock speed bump. The new chips continue to be built on Intel's "14nm+" manufacturing process, albeit a somewhat refined one.

Source: Ars Technica

takyon: Also at AnandTech. Where's 14nm++ Coffee Lake?

In the past we are used to a new numbered generation to come with a new core microarchitecture design. But this time Intel is improving a core design, calling it a refresh, and only releasing a few processors for the mobile family. We expect that Intel's 8th Generation will eventually contain three core designs of product on three different process design nodes: the launch today is Kaby Lake Refresh on 14+, and in the future we will see Coffee Lake on 14++ become part of the 8th Gen, as well as Cannon Lake on 10nm.

[...] So when is Coffee Lake on 14++ (or Cannon Lake) coming? Intel only stated that other members of the 8th Generation family (which contains Kaby Lake Refresh, Coffee Lake and Cannon Lake) are coming later this year. Desktop will come in the autumn, and additional products for enterprise, workstation and enthusiast notebooks will also happen. As for today's 8th Generation U-series announcement, Intel tells us that we should start seeing laptops using the new CPUs hit the market in September.


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by bob_super on Monday August 21 2017, @04:38PM (5 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Monday August 21 2017, @04:38PM (#557096)

    I demand that Intel delivers a new process, a 50% speed gain, and a cheap flying car.
    Just a second... why are you bugging me now?

    ...And a pony! With a pink bridle.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday August 21 2017, @04:54PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 21 2017, @04:54PM (#557099) Journal

    ...And a pony! With a pink bridle.

    A periwinkle blue saddle or nothing. I'm terrible partial about it. Have I made myself clear? **

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 21 2017, @05:52PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 21 2017, @05:52PM (#557138)
    ╔══════╦══════════╦══════════════════╦═════════════╦══════╦═══════╗
    ║ Year ║   Model  ║       Price      ║ Transistors ║ Node ║ Bench ║
    ╠══════╬══════════╬══════════════════╬═════════════╬══════╬═══════╣
    ║ 2007 ║   Q6600  ║ $851->$530->$266 ║ 582 million ║ 65nm ║ X     ║
    ╠══════╬══════════╬══════════════════╬═════════════╬══════╬═══════╣
    ║ 2017 ║ i7-7740X ║    $999->$340    ║ 1.5 billion ║ 14nm ║ 2.75X ║
    ╚══════╩══════════╩══════════════════╩═════════════╩══════╩═══════╝

    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7740X/1980vsm304932

    You can jerk off to Intel all you want, but it took them 10 years to double performance-per-dollar. A shame they didn't stick a magnet in Moore's ass and rolled a coil around his coffin. Would have saved them millions in utility bills.
    • (Score: 3, Touché) by bob_super on Monday August 21 2017, @06:05PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Monday August 21 2017, @06:05PM (#557144)

      He's already bought his own coffin? I guess you may do things like that when you're a billionaire and 88...
      Not sure how your proposed setup would produce power, unless he's into bumping uglies in a coffin.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 21 2017, @06:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 21 2017, @06:18PM (#557150)

        Clearly, we're dealing with a silicon sucking vampire. No doubt another victim of an 80s cocaine addled suckle-frenzy on the breasts of 1000$ AIDS infected prostitute.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 21 2017, @09:02PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 21 2017, @09:02PM (#557234)

      People simply stopped buying desktops. Oh some people still snag them. But most of the business world went to laptops and low power devices. The datacenters also said 'cant buy any more topped out on power'. ARM is decimating Intel. They know it. Then AMD tripped on their face about 20 times during that time. So Intel basically being the only game did nothing. AMD got its crap together and suddenly 'interesting' chips flow from the Intel group again.

      Most CPUs have a out to memory and back of 200+ cycles. You can increase the speed all you like on the CPU. Memory/heat is the bottleneck.

      The CPU I am looking at is about 15%-30% better IPC than what I bought 5 years ago at a slightly lower TDP. As I am a laptop guy now I am looking more for the GPU/screen upgrade. Probably a pascal nVidia 1070 chipset. Plus the extra speed in memory will not hurt either from 1800 to 2400.

      Skip the X line they basically a marketing speed bin of some select chips. Not worth the money.

      You can jerk off to Intel all you want, but it took them 10 years to double performance-per-dollar
      You can argue it too AMD even longer. The last time they were competitive with Intel was 2003.