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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday August 23 2017, @11:15AM   Printer-friendly

An unspecified number of sailors have been found dead in sealed compartments aboard the USS John S. McCain. 10 were reported missing after the McCain collided with a merchant vessel near Singapore. The Malaysian navy also reported finding remains:

Swift said the Malaysian navy, which is conducting a search in the area where the collision took place, has also reported finding remains, but it was not yet clear if they were from the McCain. "We have a report from the Malaysians ... that they have found a body, we are in the process of effecting the transfer of the body," Swift told reporters.

"We are always hopeful that there are survivors. Until we have exhausted any potential of recovering survivors or bodies, the search will continue," he said.

In a statement posted earlier on its website, the Pacific Command said divers equipped with "surface supplied air rigs ... will access sealed compartments located in damaged parts of the ship. Additionally, they will conduct damage assessments of the hull and flooded areas."

Update: U.S. Navy to relieve Seventh Fleet commander after collisions in Asia

Previously: 10 Sailors Still Missing After U.S. Destroyer Collision With Oil Tanker


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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday August 23 2017, @05:06PM (3 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday August 23 2017, @05:06PM (#558075)

    Here's the comment I referred to above:
    https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11022975&cid=55067161 [slashdot.org]

    and a recent comment by the same officer:
    https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11022975&cid=55067161 [slashdot.org]

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 23 2017, @06:02PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 23 2017, @06:02PM (#558093)

    It sounds like we are on the same line of reasoning.
          You seem to know of specific problems which simply should not be.
        I don't know for sure what the problems are, but it seems likely that there are some.

    What bugged me was that the CNO's statement seemed like navy business as usual.
    After what appears to be 17 unnecessary deaths,
        repeating the usual accident procedure and expecting a different outcome seems unfortunate.

    On the other hand, if there was an outside actor, then looking in detail at the manouvering over time seems likely to find that as well.

    On AIS, it looked like the event caused at least 2 other ships to change heading.
    As a basic point of seamanship, is it a good idea to do something are requires evasive action from other ships.
    Maybe there is no other way to cross the sea lane?

    It seems if you are going to need other ships to cooperate inorder for you to proceed, then they need to know about the plan.
    If AIS emissions were off, then that leaves ship to ship comms.
    Would a navy bridge usually talk to other ships before steering into such a position?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 23 2017, @06:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 23 2017, @06:49PM (#558122)

      "Would a navy bridge usually talk to other ships before steering into such a position?"

      Normally, yes. A properly-run Navy ship always "guards" maritime VHF voice frequencies, especially in traffic and entering/leaving harbor. Many times on the bridge of my cruiser we "hailed" nearby merchies on the correct frequencies, to no avail. The OOD would just conn the ship safely around these zombies.

      As to the training and discipline of these particular bridge watches I cannot comment.

  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday August 23 2017, @06:16PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday August 23 2017, @06:16PM (#558100)

    Crap, I inserted the wrong link. The first one should be:
    https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8186211&cid=50752281 [slashdot.org]