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posted by cmn32480 on Sunday August 27 2017, @09:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-won't-come-for-me dept.

Congress just passed, and Trump signed, a law that makes all properties adjacent to the rail system operated by the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, Constitution free zones.

From TFA on zerohedge.com:

"In performing its duties, the Commission, through its Board or designated employees or agents, may: Enter upon the WMATA Rail System and, upon reasonable notice and a finding by the chief executive officer that a need exists, upon any lands, waters, and premises adjacent to the WMATA Rail System, including, without limitation, property owned or occupied by the federal government, for the purpose of making inspections, investigations, examinations, and testing as the Commission may deem necessary to carry out the purposes of this MSC Compact, and such entry shall not be deemed a trespass."

As we all know, the standard in the 4th Amendment is a particularized warrant based on probable cause, "reasonable notice and need" as determined by the cops (i.e. agency chief), is not the same thing at all.

We already have constitution free zones within 100 100 miles of any border, and this provides a convenient framework to do a similar thing along any rail line (or road) so the Feds can liberate the center of the country from any form of Constitutional protection. Anyway ... the 4th Amendment is already dead at this point, but its piecemeal demise should provide a useful education for those clamoring for the demise of the 1st.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 28 2017, @03:06PM (4 children)

    Consider carefully what would happen if only one out of ten citizens decided to make life hell on the government. Consider also that none of the military agree with the dissenters and bring their bases and weapons of war with them. Just regular people with a single deer rifle and a single box of ammo for it each. Think on it for a while. How much trouble can one person with a gun make? Now multiply that by thirty million.

    There's no need to be organized. There's no need to communicate. There's no need to create supply lines. There's no need to occupy or control territory. All that has to happen for the most powerful military on earth to get its shit pushed in is for one out of every thirty dissenters to go about their daily business until they see a chance to kill one military member. No big assaults or anything. Just kill one for every thirty of them that dies or gets captured.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday August 28 2017, @03:35PM (3 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday August 28 2017, @03:35PM (#560279)

    Consider carefully what would happen if only one out of ten citizens decided to make life hell on the government.

    Part of my reasoning, which you are carefully leaving out of the equation, is that the other nine out of ten citizens might decide to do something about the one out of ten citizens. Like, say, calling 911 and reporting that they observed you shooting the military member you decided to take out.

    There's no need to be organized. There's no need to communicate.

    Then how is it that all your gun-toting citizens know to shoot military members at every opportunity? No successful armed resistance to anything in the history of humanity has done so without organization and communication.

    All that has to happen for the most powerful military on earth to get its shit pushed in is for one out of every thirty dissenters to go about their daily business until they see a chance to kill one military member. No big assaults or anything. Just kill one for every thirty of them that dies or gets captured.

    Your numbers assume you are up against only the active military. You aren't.

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    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 28 2017, @04:37PM (2 children)

      Other citizens don't matter once the deed's done.

      Nope, no communication needs to happen. All it takes is one out of every ten (which isn't even close to half as many guns as we have) people to decide this government is finished within the same decade, and it's finished. There's nothing you can do about them beforehand because beforehand they are all perfectly law-abiding citizens.

      No, my numbers assume active, reserves, and guard. They do not assume police because there aren't enough police to matter. Right now, and every cop knows this, they police the citizenry only because the citizenry wants them to. It wouldn't take even one in a hundred saying "fuck this" and every police officer in the nation would either down arms, switch sides, or die within a week.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 28 2017, @09:02PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 28 2017, @09:02PM (#560506)

        ok, so it works when you are john rambo and 1 in 10 people are of a like mind. If you and they aren't, and even if you all have amassed a good amount of loot to at least get one shot out that counts, there is no respawn point after your insurrection fails. your game is over. you won't know if you won; you'll just be in a body bag.

        Most people are not willing to die for a cause, unless the choices are clear that it will be worse if they did nothing and lived -- worse for themselves, worse for people they love or care for. You haven't presented that scenario effectively enough for us all to take into account motivated vigilantes into your percentage and success rate.