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posted by martyb on Tuesday August 29 2017, @07:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the water-water-everywhere dept.

Houston and Hurricane Harvey - Overview and On-Line Resources

Houston, Texas (the 4th most populous city in the USA) is located in Harris County (the 3rd most populous in the country) and has been under the onslaught of Hurricane Harvey which was later downgraded to a tropical storm. Current rain totals over the course of the storm have exceeded 40 inches in some locations — additional rain of up to 10 more inches is predicted. Flooding is rampant and the damage to property is immense. So far, 5 people have been reported dead as a result of the storm. Gathered here are a number of on-line resources followed by a story questioning why mandatory evacuations were not called for earlier. The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) reports the failure of a large number of cell towers, cable and phone lines.

Online Resources:

Why Wasn't an Official Evacuation Order Issued?

As I type this, a historic weather event is crushing south Texas with enormous amounts of rain and massive flooding leaving thousands of people in need of rescue.

So why wasn't an official evacuation order issued? Last Friday Governor Greg Abbott (R) urged people to evacuate, even if it was not mandatory. Shortly after the governor's press conference, Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner (D) sent a tweet advising people not rush to evacuate, saying no evacuation orders have been issued. Mayor Sylvester also addressed what he called "unfounded rumors," releasing a statement that said, "...Rumors are nothing new, but the widespread use of social media has needlessly frightened many people today."

Harris County's emergency management office also tried to debunk via Twitter, what it called "false emails & FB posts" on August 24, suggesting people ignore the messages. The post it shared predicted 50 inches of rain (which experts are now also predicting) and 100,000 homes destroyed (it's not clear how many homes are currently flooded in Houston). All of which prompted people to wonder:

You said this was fake news but yet everything this "false" message said is happening. Two days ago we could've evacuated. https://t.co/ORtTyEodQt

— Pickle Heidy (@cheidyy_) August 27, 2017

To be fair, Mayor Sylvester had a good reason for not issuing an evacuation. In 2005 more than 100 people died during the evacuation of Houston for Hurricane Rita.

Source: Heavy.com

Why Evacuating Major Cities Before a Hurricane can be Deadly

[Ed Addition] The Houston Chronicle has an excellent piece, Why evacuating major cities before a hurricane can be deadly:

When Hurricane Rita barreled toward Texas in 2005, for example, an exodus of about 3 million people contributed to at least 73 deaths — though some have estimated as many as 107 — before the storm.

"Traffic jams stretched across hundreds of miles over two days, and many people ran out of gas," reporters Jim Malewitz and Brandon Formby wrote in The Texas Tribune. "Dozens died from accidents and heat-related illnesses, all before Rita even made landfall."

Had Harris County issued an evacuation order even several days in advance, a similar backup may have ensued — and it could have happened on roads that quickly got flooded with several feet of fast-moving water.

See the story for amazing pictures comparing dry and flooded highways.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:24AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:24AM (#560724)

    Why Wasn't an Official Evacuation Order Issued?

    Without delving into whether or not government officials were doing their jobs properly: if you want to keep yourself safe, YOU are the only one who bears the responsibility to do so.

    Police cannot teleport.
    Firefighters don't have magic wands.
    Electric workers don't move faster just because YOUR house is without power.
    No one is saving a special stash of water and toilet paper for you at the supermarket.

    Take care of it yourself.

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  • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:37AM (3 children)

    by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:37AM (#560731)

    This morning on BBC radio, an interviewee from some official disaster relief agency in Texas (didn't catch his name) responded to this question by stating: "If a hurricane was forecast, we'd know where the winds were going to hit, and would have issued an evacuation warning. But for a rain storm, which could rain anywhere, we'd have been laughed out of town."

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @02:46PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @02:46PM (#560829)

      You don't need to know where it will rain, you only need to know where it will flood. And this is trivial with flood maps. What a bunch of dumbasses. Lot of officials do deserve lot of blame, Houston has been flooding for years and no action has taken place to remedy this in the slightest.

      Of course lot of people will still be hesitant to leave because of "unwanted visitors" during the time you are away. If you are not there to shoot them, well then some of your stuff will go missing.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:26PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:26PM (#560845) Journal

        "Houston has been flooding for years and no action has taken place to remedy this in the slightest."

        The fact is, very nearly everything officials do, tends to make the problem worse. The permeable soil, which absorbs and filters water, is constantly being paved over. The pavement is pushed out further, and further, each and every year. Homes, shopping malls, medical facilities, businesses, and more - plus all of the highways and tollroads required to move those people from place to place. Where water was filtered, channeled, and/or absorbed thirty years ago, it is now damned, and readily backs up into whatever has been built there.

    • (Score: 2) by Spamalope on Tuesday August 29 2017, @09:30PM

      by Spamalope (5233) on Tuesday August 29 2017, @09:30PM (#561155) Homepage

      The TS force wind field extended in a 400 mile circle around the storm. Disaster preparedness folks knew there would be flooding. Storm models showed 100 year storm plus forecasts. In advance.

      But - then there are politicians making political calculations. The Rita evacuation was a big political black eye, even though it was the right call. (if Rita hadn't weakened, she would have flooded as many homes... well - the foundations after the storm waves knocked the buildings down.)

      The mayor of Houston at least figured an evacuation would be a likely negative, but no evacuation would mostly likely be something that could be hand waved away with a 'who knew' and rhetoric when a few lone voices show they did know.

      In reality, they should have evacuated everyone in flood prone areas. Around Braes bayou, Buffalo Bayou, Clear Creek (the Dickenson flooding) etc.

      Instead, the Mayor told Houston residents to ignore warnings and state officials called for people to get out if they had somewhere to go. That... that was unconscionable.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:42AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:42AM (#560735)

    Best thing is to have gun, so you can shoot at the boats that are trying to rescue people [wgno.com], if they are not rescuing you! NRA for self-defense against hurricanes, y'all!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:59AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @08:59AM (#560740)

      Holy crap, criminals gonna crim!? Thank you for revealing this insightful and useful information to us!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @09:06AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @09:06AM (#560742)

        No, fine upstanding citizens exercising their right to let liberty fly out the end of their piece, and demanding they be rescused before those anti-second amenderment scum!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:47PM (#560856)

          Gee, is that true? Well then, we'd best lock everyone up naked inside coffin-sized individual cells for their own safety! What use is a little essential liberty anyway?

      • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:42PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:42PM (#560854)

        Niggers gonna nig FTFY

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by jmorris on Tuesday August 29 2017, @02:57PM (2 children)

      by jmorris (4844) on Tuesday August 29 2017, @02:57PM (#560833)

      That account is about an attempt to steal an inoperable boat by people desperate to be rescued. There are other accounts of looters attempting to hijack boats by pretending to be in trouble to attract a boat. They want the boats to be able to loot more.

      Yea, the benefits of vibrant diversity are truly uncountable. Aren't you feeling the cultural enrichment it brings? In a non-enriched society you just get your boat and go start rescuing people when a disaster strikes. Boring. In an enriched one you have to add a hardpoint to your boat and a .50 cal. That adds some zing! to living.