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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday August 29 2017, @03:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the costly-takeout dept.

In an effort to reduce plastic bag pollution, Kenya has introduced tough laws that will result in a prison term of up to 4 years or a maximum of $40,000 for any Kenyan producing, selling or even using plastic bags, although initial enforcement will target manufacturers and suppliers.

"The East African nation joins more than 40 other countries that have banned, partly banned or taxed single use plastic bags, including China, France, Rwanda and Italy."

Bags can take 500-1000 years to decompose, in the mean time killing or harming wildlife and entering the human food chain.
What is being done about plastic bag pollution where you live?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Tuesday August 29 2017, @07:28PM (3 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday August 29 2017, @07:28PM (#561044)

    Dogs provide companionship and security, and many people grow up with dogs and enjoy having them around

    Cats and other pets provide companionship too, and without being such a giant pain in the ass and needing constant 24x7 attention. Dogs need even more attention than kids (once the kids are past about 4yo).

    Many people grow up with abusive parents and then become abusers when they're adults; that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
    Many people enjoy smoking, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

    I've never noticed any partisan trend with pet ownership, perhaps you're just running into the fact that most urban dwellers happen to be liberal.

    Well yes, but considering how much of a PITA dogs are in the city (compared to rural areas where you can just let them outside to run around on their own instead of having to take your time to take them to a dog park and walk them), I guess I'm befuddled why so many liberal city-dwelling women love giant dogs so much when I would have expected them to be a clear minority. Maybe the ones who are single and over 30 are more likely to be big-dog-lovers and that's why I'm seeing this? (And maybe there's more factors here: maybe the fact that they all demand any men courting them to also be dog-lovers drives men away so they're stuck single, and maybe the dog has taken the place of them having kids, since most of these women are also childless.)

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by qzm on Tuesday August 29 2017, @10:23PM (2 children)

    by qzm (3260) on Tuesday August 29 2017, @10:23PM (#561194)

    Cats and other pets provide companionship too, and without being such a giant pain in the ass and needing constant 24x7 attention.

    Ah, Cats you say?

    These would be the animals that spend all night hunting and torturing to death any small wildlife that is in the area?
    The ones that have a high rate of going feral, and then breed like rodents?
    The ones that carry CSD (cat scratch disease, a rather nasty bacterial infection that happily infects humans, carried by around 40% of all cats..)
    The ones that carry Toxoplasmosis, a parasitic disease easily spread to humans, but carried primarily through cats, that infects 23% of Americas, and can cause psychological problems?

    Yes, much much better than Dogs..

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Tuesday August 29 2017, @11:41PM (1 child)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday August 29 2017, @11:41PM (#561224)

      Are you stupid? You're comparing pet dogs (mainly indoor) to outdoor and feral cats?

      No, indoor pet cats do not hunt and torture small wildlife, unless perhaps your house is infested by rodents.

      No, cats don't "go feral" unless you leave them outside all the time. Abandon a dog in the woods and it's going to go feral too.

      CSD? Citation needed. I've had and been around cats for decades and never heard of such a thing being a problem with pet cats. Feral cats are a different matter.

      Toxoplasmosis is overblown, and again not a problem with indoor cats.

      You seem to be forgetting that cats are normally kept inside (and if they aren't, they should be; outdoor cats don't live very long, and are bad for wild birds. Similarly, feral dogs end up forming wild dog packs and attacking other animals and even humans). And indoor cats *stay* inside, so they don't bring problems into the house. Dogs, on the other hand, have to go outside regularly to shit and piss because they're too stupid to use a litterbox, so at the very least they'll be tracking mud and dirt into your house, if not fleas and other pests and parasites.

      Next time, try comparing apples to apples.

      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:04PM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:04PM (#561503) Homepage Journal

        You're replying to someone who obviously has an irrational hatred of cats. Changing his mind is like trying to get a klansman to love black people.

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