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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday August 30 2017, @06:23PM   Printer-friendly
from the changing-times dept.

As the number of highly educated women has increased in recent decades, the chances of "marrying up" have increased significantly for men and decreased for women, according to a new study led by a University of Kansas sociologist.

"The pattern of marriage and its economic consequences have changed over time," said lead author ChangHwan Kim, associate professor of sociology. "Now women are more likely to get married to a less-educated man. What is the consequence of this?"

Kim's co-authored the study with Arthur Sakamoto of Texas A&M University, and the journal Demography recently published their findings. They examined gender-specific changes in the total financial return to education among people of prime working ages, 35 to 44 years old, using U.S. Census data from 1990 and 2000 and the 2009-2011 American Community Survey.

Your dreams of finding a Sugar Momma may finally come true.

ChangHwan Kim, Arthur Sakamoto. Women's Progress for Men's Gain? Gender-Specific Changes in the Return to Education as Measured by Family Standard of Living, 1990 to 2009–2011. Demography, 2017; DOI: 10.1007/s13524-017-0601-3


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by looorg on Wednesday August 30 2017, @07:41PM (15 children)

    by looorg (578) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @07:41PM (#561670)

    Now women are more likely to get married to a less-educated man. What is the consequence of this?

    A new porn category?

    But for who? Is it for women that want their fantasy big dick Ph.D. so they can marry an educated man that is not only smart but well equipped in other ways to. Or is it for the emasculated men that are forced to marry up? Where he can "man up" again. Instead of suffering under the matriarchy? Which I guess would be another porn category since there are probably those that are into that to. Damn so many new categories.

    That said it's an interesting phenomenon that there have been quite a few papers written about. Men don't care they marry anything, for love and pussy or whatever. While women have normally always preferred to marry up in status and resources, or at least on the same level but rarely if ever marry down in status and resources, even for "love". With more and more women in higher education and less and less men it would bound to have to happen eventually, after all they can't all become lesbians (that category already exists so no need to add to the ever growing list).

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Wednesday August 30 2017, @07:56PM (14 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @07:56PM (#561677)

    Women don't have to become lesbians; they can just stay single. That's what I'm seeing in the big east-coast cities anyway. Women who are 35-45 and never married are extremely common now on the dating sites. And I suspect many, many of them will remain single for the rest of their lives. Many of them really don't have that much going for them: they don't look that great, and they have decent jobs but not exactly huge salaries (so they're comfortable and can afford a nice little condo and some travel), and they usually don't have much in the way of interests. If they're attractive, they'll probably snag a guy, but if they're not so attractive (which isn't hard, many of these women seem to drink a lot and of course alcohol is fattening), they have to lower their standards if they want a serious boyfriend, and many of them just aren't going to do that. Add to that the fact that many of them seem to have a strong social circle of similar perpetually-single women, and I think many of them are just going to be single forever.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:06PM (13 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:06PM (#561680) Journal

      You can't "become" a lesbian either. It's not a choice. I didn't wake up one morning and go "you know I think I'm gonna follow a strict vagitarian diet."

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      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:16PM (#561685)

        Everyone knows you make the decision at night and then get a good nights sleep to let your subconscious mull it over. Maybe having orange juice instead of coffee is what triggered your decision?

        /s cause this site is fool of shittastic trolls who might seriously say shit like that

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:20PM (3 children)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:20PM (#561687)

        Well yeah, that too. But bisexuality among women isn't *that* rare, if they're honest with themselves. In an alternate universe, where women were encouraged to "become" lesbians (perhaps because of a giant shortage of males combined with a lack of homophobia in society like we have today), we'd surely see more of it because more women who are latently bisexual would choose female partners instead of male ones.

        There's probably a lot more bisexual men than we realize too, but it's even more repressed. The Kinsey Scale exists for a reason.

        My whole point before was just in observing trends among 35-45 women, that I'm seeing a lot of women simply refusing to "settle" and staying single. I'm sure there's plenty of men doing the same.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:52PM (2 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:52PM (#561714) Journal

          Yeah, I bet most people are closer to Kinsey 1 than Kinsey 0 if they're being honest with themselves. They're what I'd heard referred to as "spaghetti-sexual" (firmly straight until you get them hot and wet...). Seems more common with women than men though. ...of course, I'm a hard Kinsey 6 so there's one data point that stands in opposition to that hypothesis *shrug*

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          • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:25PM (1 child)

            by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:25PM (#561738)

            Seems more common with women than men though

            It's debatable. Is it because men really are biologically "straighter", or is it because today's society is more tolerant of female bisexuality so men are more likely to suppress these desires (both consciously and subconsciously)?

            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @11:49PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @11:49PM (#561842)

              Plenty of guys would swing that way if they weren't concerned about getting caught. Hell I had a (now ex) friend sexually harassing me on a daily basis (dafuq? And the guy was usually getting pussy more regularly than me too...)

              Personally I have always been more of the 'center of a throng of girls' type, but the opportunities for that dwindled after middle school, when all of a sudden women have to either be straight or lesbians, depending on their social circle, and swaying into bisexuality or poly arrangements are more or less verboten.

              It is too bad I didn't sorts out all of this shit from the 'truths' being spouted by religious zealots, teachers, etc earlier in life, because I could have resolved some complaints about my philandering ways and since they were all friends anyway....

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:24PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:24PM (#561689)

        That's your experience. Is it every lesbian's experience?

        If it isn't a choice, can it be cured or suppressed by a drug? Can intervention be done before birth? Will we abort or design babies so that less lesbians are born? Can you make a lesbian by surgically altering their brain or damaging it like Phineas Gage?

        Better to call it a predilection combined with a choice.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:50PM (2 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:50PM (#561712) Journal

          Well, breaking it down, yes, the predilection is to only fall in love with women. The choice is to be sexually active. Celibate lesbians are no less gay than ones who have a sex life.

          I would think drugs likely couldn't change the underlying predilection, though if you get someone drunk enough they will probably have sex. Similarly, I don't think a single brain region is responsible for this; we're probably looking at mostly intrauterine hormone levels, maybe some genetic or epigenetic factors, and possibly some brain structure differences as a result of the previous. I swear I read some study about putting gay people in MRIs and seeing parts of the brain that handle sexuality and pheremones looking like the ones belonging to straight people of the opposite sex. Wouldn't be surprised if I had stronger front-to-back grey matter connections than most straight women too.

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @01:08AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @01:08AM (#561895)

            I get the idea cognitive sexuality ( as opposed to physical sexuality ) is a matter very akin to whether people will either like or dislike brocolli. I happen to love the stuff.

            For the longest time, I have had a fit determining which group I fell into, as I seemed to fall into none of the established classifications. It wasn't until a couple of years ago which thanks to the internet and Google, I finally found what my little subgroup was called: Sthenolagnia. I have been that way as long as I can remember.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:40PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:40PM (#562215) Journal

              Sthenos (strength) + lagnia (worship/sexual arousal), so...er, you're bi but prefer muscley or otherwise strong partners?

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              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 5, Informative) by KiloByte on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:05PM (1 child)

        by KiloByte (375) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:05PM (#561721)

        According to genital blood flow (ie, arousal) studies, there's, within the error margin, no such thing as "heterosexual woman". There's a small but non-negligible group of strictly-lesbian women (who also have certain other mental characteristics typical of men), but the vast majority are aroused by images of attractive members of both genders, usually with a slightly stronger reaction to women.

        This is the true rather than self-reported preference; most women choose to have sex exclusively with men due to religious and social pressure, and the desire to have children. But since arousal is there, this is a choice.

        This goes in stark contrast to men, most of whom are strictly heterosexual.

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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:37PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:37PM (#562211) Journal

          Hah, yeah, that second group is me. I can appreciate a well-built man, but in the same way as a well-build skyscraper or statue. Really wondering what my brain looks like now, LOL.

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 04 2017, @03:22PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 04 2017, @03:22PM (#563471)

        yeah,

        you might want to look up the term LUG (lesbian untill graduation)

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday September 04 2017, @10:40PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday September 04 2017, @10:40PM (#563597) Journal

          Good grief, you really think I didn't run into those people? One of them broke my heart badly in sophomore year of college. These are the annoying, flighty, indecisive bisexual girls who give everyone a bad name and in general just pee all over in the dating pool. I swore on my shiny gold star, after that, no more bi girls; lesbians only. And it's been a wise choice.

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...