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posted by takyon on Thursday August 31 2017, @04:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the one-dollar-one-vote dept.

According to The Guardian Google is a major funder of the New America Foundation, some researchers of which criticized monopolies and lauded the EU for levying a record fine for Google for antitrust reasons. This apparently wasn't received well at the advertisement company and subsequently the team who did the research got the boot.

Now might be a good time to consider your dependence on all services GOOG.

The New America Foundation is one of the leading left-leaning policy groups in the US and is led by Anne-Marie Slaughter, an author, foreign policy analyst and political scientist. In June, Barry Lynn, a senior fellow who led the thinktank's Open Markets initiative, wrote a blogpost praising the EU's decision to levy a record €2.42bn ($2.7bn) fine on Google for breaching antitrust rules and abusing its market dominance. "Google's market power is one of the most critical challenges for competition policymakers in the world today," Lynn wrote.

According to The New York Times, shortly after the post was published Schmidt, who chaired New America until 2016, contacted Slaughter to communicate his displeasure.

The blogpost was temporarily removed from New America's website before being reposted. Days later, Slaughter told Lynn that "the time has come for Open Markets and New America to part ways", according to an email from Slaughter to Lynn obtained by the Times. Slaughter said the decision was "in no way based on the content of your work" although she she accused Lynn of "imperiling the institution as a whole".

New America has received roughly $21m from Google, Schmidt and his family foundation since 1999. The organisation's main conference room in Washington DC is called the Eric Schmidt Ideas Lab.

Lynn and his 10-strong team have now set up Citizens Against Monopoly. "Is Google trying to censor journalists and researchers who fight dangerous monopolies?" the website asks. "Sadly, the answer is: YES."


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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday August 31 2017, @06:19AM (16 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday August 31 2017, @06:19AM (#561990) Journal

    At least it is not like SoylentNews, where you can be mod banned for objecting to being spam-modded? Or, is it? Does SoylentNews really want to be equivalent to Google? Let aristarchus go! Rescind his mod ban, or you are not better than Google. Except, you never paid aristarchus anything, and by denying him mod privileges you are only allowing the forces of evil and jmorris to flourish on this site. So think again, admins and eds, and even TMBs, perhaps you should restore aristarchus's mod privileges, if only because he may continue to make posts like this, that if they were not made by a logged-in Soylentil, would be totally spam, after the 25th time. This is time 4, by the way.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by FatPhil on Thursday August 31 2017, @08:30AM (12 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday August 31 2017, @08:30AM (#562014) Homepage
    4th time? Are you denying that you've done little but whine about spam moderations and mod banning since at least saturday:

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday August 31 2017, @08:58AM (4 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday August 31 2017, @08:58AM (#562025) Journal

      I've done some other stuff. But seriously, if the site as a whole is compromised, none of that really matters.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @12:33PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @12:33PM (#562088)

        Aristarchus, I appreciate your views. They often act as a fine foil against your brethren of an opposite mindset.

        Set up SalientNews and maybe I'll join!

        But I think in this case the best option is to ride out the change. They need you here -- you provide value, even if they do not necessarily see it directly. Your comments are usually welcome...

        If it was just a bunch of people agreeing with each other, there would be no reason to be here. I can get that nearly everywhere else as the default..

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday August 31 2017, @01:54PM

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday August 31 2017, @01:54PM (#562119) Homepage
        Keep on topic, and you can help uncompromise the site, you have a lot of insightful comments to make on a wide range of subjects, and at least used to be one of the more interesting posters here with your askance approaches to the subject matter - and by that I explicitly mean that your contrary views are appreciated, as long as they are addressing the story and not off on a wild tangent.

        Stop trying to lock horns, that's all I'm saying.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @03:19PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @03:19PM (#562148)

        Either calm down, acknowledge you acted in bad faith, and seek the good graces of those in power OR
        go off in a puff, make your own site, with blackjack and hookers

        Annoying modding has always been the case, and the modding system is shit here as there are plenty of abuses that can happen. But what you gonna do about it?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 31 2017, @11:30PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 31 2017, @11:30PM (#562343) Journal

        Aristarchus, I appreciate your views, about as much as I appreciate hemorrhoids.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @09:36AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @09:36AM (#562033)

      I've seen a wave of moderation concern trolls crop up everywhere.

      Their goal is to cast FUD on the admins / maintainers, find a fracture point and crack the community (JTRIG tactic). Just ignore these shills.

      And yes, this place has shills. If you've been around since BBS days you can spot them a mile away. These flaming lamers reek of disengenuous snark and plausible deniability.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @04:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @04:55PM (#562181)

        Reset mod points to 5! I've seen pretty lame posts get upmods recently, I don't think the extra mod points are encouraging better mod behavior or really affecting the trolls either.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:39PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:39PM (#562214) Journal

        I've seen a wave of moderation concern trolls crop up everywhere.

        Yeah, we must be shills.

        There's no way a bunch of people who are willing to vociferously criticize the administration of a website could end up on SoylentNews. That's unheard of!

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:37PM (3 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:37PM (#562209) Journal

      Turns out folks don't like it when Admins manipulate mods and karma.

      This shouldn't be a surprise considering our history.

      Pretty hypocritical coming from the folks that regularly lambast Reddit for similar behavior.

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday August 31 2017, @10:44PM (2 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday August 31 2017, @10:44PM (#562325) Homepage
        Everyone who moderates s "manipulating karma".
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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @10:56PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @10:56PM (#562328)

          No, there are admins/moderators who are able to go in and make "corrections".

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 01 2017, @09:22AM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday September 01 2017, @09:22AM (#562444) Homepage
            Do you have any evidence of this happening, or are you listening to the wailing of those with paranoid delusions?
            I've seen nothing inconsistent with "person receives -ve moderation, person's karma drops; person receives +ve moderation, person's karma rises".
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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Friday September 01 2017, @03:17AM (2 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 01 2017, @03:17AM (#562397)

    Dude, get a grip. Also pay me some shekels. I'm not living rent free in your head. Tis a silly place.

    I got banned from mods earlier in the year, never figured out why either. You didn't see me pissing and whining though and it ended as mysteriously as it began. So suck it up, ride it out. It's just a BBS and you haven't even been banned from posting. It isn't like you have been banned from registering web domains for life, even on "bulletproof registrars", banned from dating sites or banned from accepting credit card payments, you haven't been banned from Youtube or AdSense. Look out at the world, the banhammer is the new hotness, save your bitching for when you get some serious oppression coming at you.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday September 01 2017, @04:13AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Friday September 01 2017, @04:13AM (#562405) Journal

      Yes, all the complaining is unseemly, but it is not about me, jmorris, it is about all those other soylentils who are being silenced in the name of free speech!

      It isn't like you have been banned from registering web domains for life, even on "bulletproof registrars", banned from dating sites or banned from accepting credit card payments, you haven't been banned from Youtube or AdSense.

      So, at least I'm not a Nazi? That means a lot, coming from you, jmorris. Thanks.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 01 2017, @09:32AM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday September 01 2017, @09:32AM (#562445) Homepage
      Pretty much the only thing mod permissions would be temporarily suspended for would be egregious abuse of moderation. That would be persistent mod-bombing, or abuse of the spam moderation.

      If the inexplicable happens in the future, it's better to raise the question on one of the IRC channels, where an admin can look at the issue in real time, and discussion can occur. And no, that's not an attempt to hide the issue - the IRC channels are all publically logged, it's just a more efficient place for real-time discussion.
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