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We had three Soylentils submit stories about North Korea's claims it had detonated a hydrogen bomb and reports of seismic activity.
North Korea has Conducted a Major Nuclear Test.
North Korea said on Sunday it detonated a hydrogen bomb, possibly triggering an artificial earthquake and prompting immediate condemnation from its neighbors -- despite the rogue regime calling the test a "perfect success." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/03/quake-in-north-korea-may-have-been-nuclear-test.html
North Korea Claims Successful Hydrogen Bomb Test
North Korea claims to have successfully developed and tested a hydrogen bomb. Observers have detected tremors associated with a blast several times larger than previous underground nuclear bomb tests. North Korea also claimed to have developed a hydrogen bomb capable of being fitted on a missile:
North Korea carried out its most powerful nuclear test to date on Sunday, claiming to have developed an advanced hydrogen bomb that could sit atop an intercontinental ballistic missile.
The bomb used in the country's sixth-ever nuclear test sent tremors across the region that were 10 times more powerful than Pyongyang's previous test a year ago, Japanese officials said. While the type of bomb used and its size have not been independently verified, if true, the pariah state is a significant step closer to being able to fire a nuclear warhead to the US mainland, as it has repeatedly threatened it could if provoked.
[...] The device was more than eight times more powerful than the nuclear bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, according to NORSAR, a Norway-based group that monitors nuclear tests. Based on the tremors that followed the test, NORSAR estimated it had an explosive yield of 120 kilotons. Hiroshima's had 15 kilotons. But South Korean officials gave a more modest estimation, saying that Sunday's bomb had a yield of 50 kilotons.
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Also at BBC, Reuters, and NYT.
4.1 Magnitude Seismic Event in North Korea at a Low Depth
Earthquake News Today initially reported that a 5.1 magnitude event designated 2000aert had occurred near Sungjibaegam, North Korea at a depth of less than 1km at 03:30 UTC September 3.
Their updated report 2.5 hours later gave a magnitude of 4.1.
All reporting stations were in the USA.
NPR, formerly Nation Public Radio, subsequently reports
North Korea has claimed to have tested a hydrogen bomb
The blast was picked up by seismic stations all over the world, and it was big.
[...]North Korea's previous nuclear tests have been in the tens of kilotons range. That corresponds roughly to a weapon the size of the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II. It's believed that the North's earlier tests were of nuclear weapons that use uranium or plutonium (or both) for their explosive yield.
This time, the North claims to have mastered a far more powerful hydrogen weapon. Some early estimates are putting this test in the hundreds of kiloton range.
[...]Modern nuclear weapons of the sort possessed by the U.S. and Russia are almost all thermonuclear in nature. It allows the weapons to pack a huge punch while fitting in a warhead small enough to be delivered by a missile.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 04 2017, @05:25PM (3 children)
Oh please! Stop with the melodramatics! Fighting to win is how we defeated the Krauts and the Japs. And they have over 70 years of peace, absolutely unprecedented, a new record every day. If we did the same with the ruskies and chinks, we wouldn't be in this mess. Apply the same rules to the middle east and all their problems would be solved also. If they experience some real fire and fury, they will STFU. But, we discovered how war is such good business on its own, its ancillary industries are thriving. So we are where we are.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 04 2017, @08:31PM
I've noticed a trend, people who use racist language are often the ones pushing for mass death. "Kill em all, glass it over, acceptable losses" etc.
Racism is a dehumanizing of one group, I guess it makes sense that it would pair up with violence.
You can play what-if all day and get nowhere, but I'd like to point out that you're advocating mass murder of innocent civilians when you say we should have nuked our way to power.
(Score: 2) by ledow on Wednesday September 06 2017, @09:51AM (1 child)
Do you then remember arming parts of the German and Japanese (seriously, what are you, in kindergarten or something? Grow up) armies to instil unrest so that you could install your own government?
That's not what happened. That was a WAR. One nation state declared war on another.
What I'm talking about is the stuff in the Middle East where non-descript factions are declared "war" on by nation states, arming their opposing factions, causing a ton of collateral damage to people not associated with either faction, then leaving and expecting the area to stabilise while you insert "democracy" into their process (i.e. do what the US says), and actually ending up on the receiving end of the innocent / opposing factions ARMED retaliation with the weapons you gave them to help "stabilise" their country.
Go look at any Middle East battle for the last century where exactly that happened, and even in things like Vietnam.
But, to be honest, given your racist and thoughtless rhetoric, chances are that you just don't understand why you have the terrorist factions fighting against you that you do.
Hint: When you blow up someone's country in the name of "democracy", they often come back next year as a group that gets itself a name blowing you up. Then you arm their opponents to kill them off, and still blow up those opponents too, and then next year..... Just about every group name you have heard, from Al Qaeda back to the 1960/70's, are people who got tired of the US bombing their country indiscriminately and trying to insert a US-approved government into it, rebelled and quite often were - at one point - on the side of, and armed by, the US / NATO / etc. forces.
But I don't expect someone who uses the terms you do to understand the first thing about foreign politics or what it means to actually go to war, rather than impose your own terrorism on a foreign state because "they're not us".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 06 2017, @02:15PM
That's why we just have to nuke the entire region. If they don't lay down their weapons, they should be exterminated. Once they know we mean business, they will comply or die. Either one is good. The middle east is a PR war to make money, not a real one. So really, put a sock in it!