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We had three Soylentils submit stories about North Korea's claims it had detonated a hydrogen bomb and reports of seismic activity.
North Korea has Conducted a Major Nuclear Test.
North Korea said on Sunday it detonated a hydrogen bomb, possibly triggering an artificial earthquake and prompting immediate condemnation from its neighbors -- despite the rogue regime calling the test a "perfect success." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/03/quake-in-north-korea-may-have-been-nuclear-test.html
North Korea Claims Successful Hydrogen Bomb Test
North Korea claims to have successfully developed and tested a hydrogen bomb. Observers have detected tremors associated with a blast several times larger than previous underground nuclear bomb tests. North Korea also claimed to have developed a hydrogen bomb capable of being fitted on a missile:
North Korea carried out its most powerful nuclear test to date on Sunday, claiming to have developed an advanced hydrogen bomb that could sit atop an intercontinental ballistic missile.
The bomb used in the country's sixth-ever nuclear test sent tremors across the region that were 10 times more powerful than Pyongyang's previous test a year ago, Japanese officials said. While the type of bomb used and its size have not been independently verified, if true, the pariah state is a significant step closer to being able to fire a nuclear warhead to the US mainland, as it has repeatedly threatened it could if provoked.
[...] The device was more than eight times more powerful than the nuclear bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, according to NORSAR, a Norway-based group that monitors nuclear tests. Based on the tremors that followed the test, NORSAR estimated it had an explosive yield of 120 kilotons. Hiroshima's had 15 kilotons. But South Korean officials gave a more modest estimation, saying that Sunday's bomb had a yield of 50 kilotons.
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Also at BBC, Reuters, and NYT.
4.1 Magnitude Seismic Event in North Korea at a Low Depth
Earthquake News Today initially reported that a 5.1 magnitude event designated 2000aert had occurred near Sungjibaegam, North Korea at a depth of less than 1km at 03:30 UTC September 3.
Their updated report 2.5 hours later gave a magnitude of 4.1.
All reporting stations were in the USA.
NPR, formerly Nation Public Radio, subsequently reports
North Korea has claimed to have tested a hydrogen bomb
The blast was picked up by seismic stations all over the world, and it was big.
[...]North Korea's previous nuclear tests have been in the tens of kilotons range. That corresponds roughly to a weapon the size of the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II. It's believed that the North's earlier tests were of nuclear weapons that use uranium or plutonium (or both) for their explosive yield.
This time, the North claims to have mastered a far more powerful hydrogen weapon. Some early estimates are putting this test in the hundreds of kiloton range.
[...]Modern nuclear weapons of the sort possessed by the U.S. and Russia are almost all thermonuclear in nature. It allows the weapons to pack a huge punch while fitting in a warhead small enough to be delivered by a missile.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 04 2017, @08:20PM (7 children)
I'd love to see someone say "fight to win for a change" in front of a vet / active military.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 04 2017, @08:46PM (2 children)
I have, and most of them agree with me. They understand how their efforts are sabotaged by the officers and politicians. Hell, even WW2 dragged on for so long due to official incompetence and corruption. So, you can kindly fuck off, you idiot!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @09:23AM (1 child)
Ah! Idiot Vets! Yes, there are quite a few of them in America. Not so much in other nations, for some reason. But, yeah, for vets too stupid to realize that they were used in the interests of corporations and politicians, and that they had no business being in the conflicts they were in, the whole Dolchstoßlegende theory, to use the original Nazi term, makes sense. Yeah, American GIs could have won in Korea, won in Vietnam, won in ElSalvador, won in Nicaragua, won in Grenada, won against Maggie Thatcher, won in Libya (the first time), won in Angola, won in Rwanda, won in Somalia, won in (just how long is this list, any way?) Afghanistan, if only they had been allowed to kill women and children, bomb civilians, fuck goats and other livestock, like they really wanted to do. But all these "politically correct" politicians said they had to obey "international law", which only made our brave violent perverts lose to the violent pervs on the other side, which gives them a really bid sad.
So next time you meat one of these sociopath veterens, you probably should punch them in the face. They are not patriots, they are traitors, and you can tell them by the fact that they are more than likely carrying insignia of the enemies of America, like swastikas and Confederate battle flags and shit. Punch them in the face, as a thank you to their betrayal of their service.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @03:14PM
Ah! Idiot Vets!
No, idiot ACs like you, you whiny little bitch! Our country wouldn't last five minutes if people like you ran it. You obviously know NOTHING about war, and what it takes to WIN one! You people are the Neville Chamberlains of our day that advocate nothing but appeasement. Your kind makes me sick! I would happily put you under our bombs also. Please, save us the trouble and kill yourself, and your little SJW friends also.
Damn you! You're just making it easier for the Russian and Chinese tyrants to rule the world!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Monday September 04 2017, @09:44PM (3 children)
Most vets understand the difference between fighting to get a mission done, which is what they do, and the issue of what the mission is for, which is what politicians arrange and drive downhill through the ranks of the military.
From another perspective, the military fights to complete the missions it is assigned; the politicians fight to feed the military industrial complex, which is invested in keeping conflict going, not in getting it over and done.
Why do you think we've been in Afghanistan so long? It sure isn't because our military couldn't put the opposition down. It's because the military isn't allowed to put the opposition down. That would kill the golden goose for far too many military contractors. They will (and they have) stretch this out as long as possible.
And of course, there's the issue that we shouldn't be in Afghanistan at all.
But you know, we have always been at war with Eastasia.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @12:28AM (1 child)
because ["victory"] would kill the golden goose for far too many military contractors
That covers Ike's farewell address in 1961 ("the military-industrial complex").
For some reason, he omitted -congressional from that statement.
...then there's Major General Smedley Butler (USMC Ret.).
of course, there's the issue that we shouldn't be in Afghanistan at all
In 1935, General Butler gave a speech which was subsequently published to fill a great demand.
- War is a Racket -
8:55 streaming video [youtube.com]
Full text (multiple pages) [ratical.org]
[1] Standard Oil is currently known as ExxonMobil.
...and Trump has recently been unabashedly talking about plundering the rare earth mineral wealth in a country that USA has invaded and occupied.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 05 2017, @06:56AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @09:23AM
Same for the ISIS. Google for contain ISIS. Unlike the Russian Gov and the Syrian Gov, the US Gov doesn't want to eliminate the ISIS. The US Gov wants groups like the ISIS there so that they can continue to fight and overthrow/weaken the Syrian Gov.