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posted by martyb on Monday September 04 2017, @05:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the Marvin-the-Martian-had-no-comment dept.

We had three Soylentils submit stories about North Korea's claims it had detonated a hydrogen bomb and reports of seismic activity.

North Korea has Conducted a Major Nuclear Test.

North Korea said on Sunday it detonated a hydrogen bomb, possibly triggering an artificial earthquake and prompting immediate condemnation from its neighbors -- despite the rogue regime calling the test a "perfect success." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/03/quake-in-north-korea-may-have-been-nuclear-test.html

North Korea Claims Successful Hydrogen Bomb Test

North Korea claims to have successfully developed and tested a hydrogen bomb. Observers have detected tremors associated with a blast several times larger than previous underground nuclear bomb tests. North Korea also claimed to have developed a hydrogen bomb capable of being fitted on a missile:

North Korea carried out its most powerful nuclear test to date on Sunday, claiming to have developed an advanced hydrogen bomb that could sit atop an intercontinental ballistic missile.

The bomb used in the country's sixth-ever nuclear test sent tremors across the region that were 10 times more powerful than Pyongyang's previous test a year ago, Japanese officials said. While the type of bomb used and its size have not been independently verified, if true, the pariah state is a significant step closer to being able to fire a nuclear warhead to the US mainland, as it has repeatedly threatened it could if provoked.

[...] The device was more than eight times more powerful than the nuclear bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, according to NORSAR, a Norway-based group that monitors nuclear tests. Based on the tremors that followed the test, NORSAR estimated it had an explosive yield of 120 kilotons. Hiroshima's had 15 kilotons. But South Korean officials gave a more modest estimation, saying that Sunday's bomb had a yield of 50 kilotons.

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Also at BBC, Reuters, and NYT.

4.1 Magnitude Seismic Event in North Korea at a Low Depth

Earthquake News Today initially reported that a 5.1 magnitude event designated 2000aert had occurred near Sungjibaegam, North Korea at a depth of less than 1km at 03:30 UTC September 3.

Their updated report 2.5 hours later gave a magnitude of 4.1.

All reporting stations were in the USA.

NPR, formerly Nation Public Radio, subsequently reports

North Korea has claimed to have tested a hydrogen bomb

The blast was picked up by seismic stations all over the world, and it was big.

[...]North Korea's previous nuclear tests have been in the tens of kilotons range. That corresponds roughly to a weapon the size of the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II. It's believed that the North's earlier tests were of nuclear weapons that use uranium or plutonium (or both) for their explosive yield.

This time, the North claims to have mastered a far more powerful hydrogen weapon. Some early estimates are putting this test in the hundreds of kiloton range.

[...]Modern nuclear weapons of the sort possessed by the U.S. and Russia are almost all thermonuclear in nature. It allows the weapons to pack a huge punch while fitting in a warhead small enough to be delivered by a missile.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Monday September 04 2017, @09:44PM (3 children)

    by fyngyrz (6567) on Monday September 04 2017, @09:44PM (#563584) Journal

    I'd love to see someone say "fight to win for a change" in front of a vet / active military.

    Most vets understand the difference between fighting to get a mission done, which is what they do, and the issue of what the mission is for, which is what politicians arrange and drive downhill through the ranks of the military.

    From another perspective, the military fights to complete the missions it is assigned; the politicians fight to feed the military industrial complex, which is invested in keeping conflict going, not in getting it over and done.

    Why do you think we've been in Afghanistan so long? It sure isn't because our military couldn't put the opposition down. It's because the military isn't allowed to put the opposition down. That would kill the golden goose for far too many military contractors. They will (and they have) stretch this out as long as possible.

    And of course, there's the issue that we shouldn't be in Afghanistan at all.

    But you know, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @12:28AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @12:28AM (#563608)

    because ["victory"] would kill the golden goose for far too many military contractors

    That covers Ike's farewell address in 1961 ("the military-industrial complex").
    For some reason, he omitted -congressional from that statement.

    ...then there's Major General Smedley Butler (USMC Ret.).

    of course, there's the issue that we shouldn't be in Afghanistan at all

    In 1935, General Butler gave a speech which was subsequently published to fill a great demand.

    I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers.
    In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
    I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914.
    I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in.
    I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street.
    I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912.
    I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916.
    I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903.
    In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil[1] went on its way unmolested.

    Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints.
    The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

      - War is a Racket -
    8:55 streaming video [youtube.com]
    Full text (multiple pages) [ratical.org]

    [1] Standard Oil is currently known as ExxonMobil.
    ...and Trump has recently been unabashedly talking about plundering the rare earth mineral wealth in a country that USA has invaded and occupied.

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 05 2017, @06:56AM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday September 05 2017, @06:56AM (#563677) Homepage
      The Butler quote is put in a slightly different context (banks rather than oil) in "All Wars Are Bankers' Wars', available as PDF or youtube vid. Flawed in places, most if it is highly insightful.
      --
      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @09:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @09:23AM (#563701)

    Why do you think we've been in Afghanistan so long? It sure isn't because our military couldn't put the opposition down.

    Same for the ISIS. Google for contain ISIS. Unlike the Russian Gov and the Syrian Gov, the US Gov doesn't want to eliminate the ISIS. The US Gov wants groups like the ISIS there so that they can continue to fight and overthrow/weaken the Syrian Gov.